Recognise that all companies work slightly differently but if there are any recruiter/HR types here, I would appreciate some insights please.

Got email from HR this afternoon saying that after my 2 interviews (which they state went very well) they would like to proceed to the next stage and want me to provide all current compensation details so that they can consider a suitable offer. They also state there are 3 roles they are considering for me (not considering me for…). I have returned this to one of their recruiters who advised that it has been passed onto their compensation specialist.

Now, I’m a simple bloke and if they had simply said “this is the job, this is the offer. Ttake it or leave it” I can understand that.

I’m cautiously optimistic about getting a firm job offer but am also aware this organisation is going through organisational change.

Thanks,

Brian

I’m not sure I’d provide all that. Maybe it would depend on how desperate I was for a job. A rough indication of salary expectations should be enough. They should make an offer and leave it to you to consider it.

So what’s the question?

compensation specialist?

what was the question?

When going through the recruitment process for my current role, they made it clear what the package was from the off. I also made it clear – diplomatically – that I wanted/needed more. When they offered me the role I reminded them of my expectation and they asked me to submit my existing package etc. I did what they asked and they came back with a revised offer. Sorted.

These days I’m probably more likely to disclose what I’m currently on and/or looking for as it cuts out the BS.

Recruiter: how much shall we offer?
Compensation specialist: £500 more than he gets now. That will be £500 please.

provide all current compensation details:

nah – just tell em what you’d like.

The question is….

Are they going to make me a firm offer for all or at least one of the roles?

I’d say so.

If they’ve gone this far then I’d suggest they probably are, unless you’re already being paid more than their benchmark for any given role.

If they pay 30k for a base engineer, 40k senior engineer and 50k senior engineer, and you have the mid level skills but already get paid their top tier then you may have issues.

Oh, if this is the case then suggest a sign on bonus of £Xk

The complication is that I’m being made redundant at the end of next month due to my current employer losing some big contracts – the joys of IT and cheaper resources from the Asian sub-continent. This potential employer (competitor of my current) is aware of this as I made it clear at the first interview and they said they would work back from my redundancy date.

I’m paid fairly ok and my redundancy will allow me to pay off the mortgage and stick some in the bank. So basically I’m happy to take less money and indeed a lower grade job with potential employer than my current and re-balance work/family/bike time. So…concern is that if I provide current ‘package’ details I might just price myself out of a good situation.

This other IT company are also having a cull and re-structure but their HR tell me that one of the roles they are considering for me is ‘confidential’….I just hope that some other soul is not going to lose their job which will then be given to me. That would not rest easy with me.

Tom and Paloma voices are not too hot are they? Production seems off….

In which case I’d suggest submitting some details regarding your current role but also your expectations. I’m not in HR but have made job offers and the whole “benchmarking and levelling process” is fairly involved but without firm data it’s still just a guess. They wouldn’t be considering the process unless they were fairly serious.

Yes, their levels sound a bit out.

Just hold tight and see what they come back with. No point worrying about this as you can’t change things now.
They may also have a better package but a similar base. I’m sure they’ll provide this info at the point of offer.

I always regard this as an HR fail. Part of their search for talent is also understanding what rates might be for a role.

I tend to just tell them what I’m looking for. It cuts to the chase.

Which reminds me, I must tell my current boss what payrise I’m expecting for taking on a new role. Monday’s job.

Thanks folks, as I say, I am a simple bloke and tend to like things being yes/no, etc although I can well appreciate the decision making processes in companies…..some can we very protracted.

Interestingly enough just received an email from another company (early start for some HR folks) to ask me in for an interview.

Of course the true reason I would like another firm job offer before Xmas is that I could then probably get an order in for a new bike – fancy a Bird to replace one of older 26″ wheeled bikes I have in the garage – without any household ‘discussions’ 😉

1. You’re happy with what your earn and they offer you something you’re happy with = win

2. You’re not happy with what you earn and they try and lowball you because of your situation = lose

If it’s 2 then you’d look to leave soon anyway. Do you really want to work somewhere that tries to exploit you when you’re in a position of weakness while overlooking the fact that an unhappy hire is most likely to leave in the near future?

If you don’t like what they propose then make a counter offer. Worst thing they can say is no.