Making the change to 11 speed shortly, always liked kmc chains in the past as I like their joining link. Seen some cracking details on shimano though but hate that joining pin method, can an sram or kmc be used to join these ? Any overall recommendations, would rather robust over super light weight… Ta

There is no reason not to use a SRAM or KMC Magic link on a Shimano chain,

Sorry, should have googled it first…kmc clearly state compatibility with the big s. Not used shimano for years now, 105 5800 + kmc decent enough combo then ?

105 5800 + kmc decent enough combo then ?

that’s exactly what I have on my new Croix De Fer and so far faultless.

KMC X11 chains are great, especially the TiN versions.

I’m much the same, but built a 105 bike recently and the Shimano pin was easy to join in the workshop (even using a non 11 speed chain tool). Snapped the ‘bullet’ off with some old side cutters.

Might be worth using it and picking up a magic link as a spare/get home fix.

I’d go with a pc red 22 or pc 1130, not had any problems with either…

powerlock is a diddle with mod’d pliers or powerlock pliers