Yes, well, there you go, eh?
What?
Yes, well, there you go, eh?
What?
Whatever happened to the guy in here that wanted to make/source seals for shimano calipers? (not that I have had one ever fail on the three sets in mrs j and my brakes, or 4 sets on other mates' bikes) (if you are counting, tj
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TandemJeremy - Member
...I made no comment on the reliability of shimano. I made comment on the non repairablity - a different issue.
But the 2 are inseparable: the importance of non-repairability decreases as reliability increases.
Why can't you admit this?
When you can buy a decent hub for £20 who cares about repaiability, the time effor and energy to make it repairable and to actually repair it is pointless.
I dont know what kind of mileages people do on hear but i have a set of campag chorus hubs which are 18 years old and have never been stripped down and have do i would think about 5000 miles between me and my dad (who now uses the bike)
I used to always strip my old hubs when i was 15 and clean and re grease, for fun not because they needed it, i had the time because i didnt have a wife, kids and a life outside bikes, now i have all i want to do is ride.
Fookin chill about the hubs please.
p.s. Shimano is the best
...yep, its all gone quiet.Proves Shimano are not quite as good as all that.
Not very good practice to have to throw away an expensive machined hub just for the sake of a 30p piece of steel.
But is that common place? I seem to be getting 15 years+ out of my Shimano hubs. I've never had an axle seize on SPDs either.
Old school bearings rule!
There's cup and cone bearings and cup and cone bearings. You cannot seriously argue that the bearings in a £99 Halford's special are exactly that same as in your common or garden XT wheelset? The ball bearings and races will be made to much tighter tolerances for a start.
I run cartridge bearing hubs on my bikes, mainly out of vanity because I like the colour blue. I have no qualms with cup and cone hubs, indeed both the stepkids have them on their bikes and they're maintained on a shoestring but keep on going.
I've got some old Shimano 600 road hubs on my winter commuter, probably 20 years old. They were used for 'cross for years by a well known rider, I then acquired them, and have totally abused them (being as they're on a winter road bike). I've probably done 5000 miles or so at a guess over 2 winters, and they're absolutely perfect, they've been jetwashed a couple of times and not much else. The cartridge bearings in my PowerTap have been replaced 3 times over one winter.
Admittedly the bearings in my DT front hub on the summer bike (which was my 'cross bike for a while and got used all year), have never been replaced and must've done at least 20000 miles. So... very inconclusive, but Shimano components are awesome, wouldn't go back to SRAM lightly, particularly Avid brakes vs the new Shimanos.
As for transplanting the cup out of a Shimano hub it's very doable, and an excellent way to totally rejunvenate your wheels, stonking value really when you consider you get a new skewer in the deal. Just turn the hub shell into a pen pot or something!
And the other is that for equivalent-performance brakes, the Hopes cost enormously more in the first place. That pays for an awful lot of replacement calipers.
Yes I'm sure 11 quid is an enormous amount in Northwind land, doesn't buy you a whole lot of calipers though.
So I guess it's just as well Formula have high performance low price brakes with full spares availability, so that you don't have to make that awkward choice
Do you live in some bizarre alternate reality? Formula brakes are hardly low price! Not conviced by the claims of high performance either having experienced some K24's...
Do you live in some bizarre alternate reality? Formula brakes are hardly low price!
Bullshine - cup and cone is victorian engineering with no place on a modern machine. Once the bearing wears the hub is scrap - fantastic
100% agree, I mean the hubs on the tourer ar 30 years old, in another 30 years when the races are worn out they'll be obsolete and I'll have to buy new hubs, shocking!
pypdjl - MemberDo you live in some bizarre alternate reality? Formula brakes are hardly low price!
Pair of Oros for £130 euros delivered, with rotors, mounts and hose shortening kits, direct from Formula. In what bizarre alternate reality is that not a low price for quality hydros?
Yes well done, they are flogging some old stock off cheap, hardly makes formula brakes cheap in general.
They've been that price for well over a year now, and plenty more to go, so it's a pretty steady alternative to paying more for less from Shimano.
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