OMITN, Jock-m, that sounds eerily like my school. RHS by any chance?
Those punishments were still practiced in the 90's.
Nope Stonyhurst College SJ* for me dunno about OMITN
21st century Britain where they wonder why we have a school discipline problem.
Do we? Is discipline worse now than in the 70s, on average?
Molgrips, MrsMutt & I are going through hell with a 14yo at the moment, the little s..t and his mates realise that the teachers can't physically touch them, restrain or even shout at them nowadays. If they do the teacher faces an assault charge.
We live in a fairly deprived area, the proportion of career dole-ies and petty criminals kids in the classes is pretty high and bearing in mind some of these are 2nd or even 3rd generation of this type of bloodsucking, freeloading scum now, the norm is that they p... about in class, tell the staff to go f... themselves, walk out of school they want to knowing that if any teacher says boo to them their parents will raise holy hell at the school. They don't care even if they get caught as there are no consequences.
The good news is that our little s**t has all the leadership abilities of a sheep, if he hangs out with "good" kids he's literally a model student, if he hangs out with the idiots, he follows suit. Arrangements have already been made to shift him into a far better school in a more affluent catchment area, and pray this works. At the moment he's basically under effective house arrest and confined to solitary with no privileges bar paper books for amusement (the horror). He's even watched his mother bounce a 2Lb lumphammer off his iPhone many times and she has threatened to launch his xbox until he wises up and starts toeing the line or the the new school year starts in September, it's no skin off our noses.
I'm not saying I was a saint at school by any stretch of the imagination BUT ye gods, we knew there were real consequences to getting caught so either a) didn't do it in the first place or b)made sure we weren't caught. AND we certainly didn't go home and bleat about it to our parents! - I remember praying that my parents wouldn't be contacted by the school.
It's the concept of "consequences" in this day an age, I'm not saying go back to the blind violence of our youth, which you have to admit was effective in 95% of cases (you are always going to get the hard line recidivist) but a middle line of teachers being able to shout at miscreants, restrain them and issue corporal punishments where deserved would do a heck of a lot towards restoring balance.
*Society of Jesus aka Jesuits basically if you imagine a "Liebstandate SS Adolf Hitler Division" of Catholicism then you are about there with their tolerance, mild mannered nature and balanced views**
**of course I exaggerate, its only 99% of them that give the rest a bad name ***
*** Truth be told, if you towed the line somewhat (the jebbies are all for structured debate, so they were happy for you to disagree)(which is novel in a school), didn't get caught, my time at school was brilliant, and I'd happily go back.