Pretty sure this wasn’t in stock even yesterday, couldn’t bear waiting for SLX so got me a medium XT and looking fwd to trying it out. Price is an early bird worm chomping £74 which looks ok next to xtr 😉 and bound to come down in the end.

Clicky

Does this work with 9 speed?

Edit: Sheldon he say no.

Shimano “Dyna-Sys” 10-speed shifters and derailers use a longer cable pull than other Shimano models, and must be used together.

£74 😯

Only £68 at winstanleys.

Does this work with 9 speed?

No

The XTR is 145 Euro on Rose Bikes (205 Eur on CRC, for comparison)

TINAS nicer! and below another mental price threshold, although tricky to find without the m786 code darn it!

out of interest, can you get clobbered by royal mail for charges when stuff comes from rose bikes or b1kecomp0nents. de ? got stung a couple of times from the US and it’s put me right off

Nope, no duties on EU sales.

TINAS nicer! and below another mental price threshold, although tricky to find without the m786 code darn it!

That’s how I found them RD-M786 into google shopping.

I’m waiting for Rose or someone to sell them a little cheeper, probably not by much but I ‘need’ two as I’ve one bike still waiting to upgrade from 9s and I always like to keep a spare mech and hanger so the other MTB can donate it’s normal shadow mech as a spare.

What’s the difference between SLX and XT rear mechs these days? Shadow+ or otherwise. They look almost identical, weigh almost identical, but SLX is a good bit cheaper…

XT has proper jockey bearings (ceramic upper and cartridge lower) whereas SLX has cheapo bushes that ultimately give poor shifting even if the teeth have not disappeared.
There used to be a significant weight difference down to XT having an alloy cage and SLX having steel, but not checked with 10-sp.

I will remain XT or XTR and leave SLX alone.

PaulD

Thanks for the psa. Ordered yesterday and already dispatched, should be sorted for France 🙂

Oh, and only £72 with TCB.

how much for an XT? jeez i’m so out of touch, stuff really has gone up has’nt it.

Is there any change to the 2013 XT cranksets?

Is there any change to the 2013 XT cranksets?

SLX you mean? XT was new this year and the changes were mainly cosmetic with a little weight saving as 10 speed came mid life-cycle. There’s an option for a propper double on the XT now too.

how much for an XT? jeez i’m so out of touch, stuff really has gone up has’nt it.

I remember XTR mechs being £95 in halfords in ’97 so I’ll assume you’re being ironic 😛

Are their any dis-advantages to running a shadow plus mech?

Not sure. I’ll tell you in a few weeks 😉

Only ones I can see in theory are slightly heavier shifting and a bit more of a faff to remove wheels. Oh, and the enevitable sinking feeling halfway down a run when you’ve forgotten to engage the mech 🙂

do you not just leave it engaged all the time?

I believe you turn it off to take out the wheel.

whereas SLX has cheapo bushes that ultimately give poor shifting even if the teeth have not disappeared.

Is this a 10 speed thing? I have an ancient LX mech with ninja star jockey wheels which still shifts OK. Though I’m not the most demanding of customers.

That old LX probably had the ceramic self-aligning jockey a la XT.
Ninja stars still engage the chain…I have seen others where you could not count the teeth.

Seems 10-sp uses bushes on XT and SLX as OEM….I would swap for cartridge bearings immediately and not wait for the failure.
No plans to go 10-sp for a few years anyway as I have lots of 8 and 9-sp stuff in stock.

PaulD

and the enevitable sinking feeling halfway down a run when you’ve forgotten to engage the mech

Surely with the clutch off it’ll just be ‘normal’ i.e. not run ending, just less good.

tinas – you’re right, but the knowledge that the extra cash spent is wasted by my absent-mindedness will be frustrating 🙂

Does anyone know if ten speed mtb cassettes are the same spacing as road ones?

Merlin are also selling the XT 785 chainsets for £120 ish which struck me as a pretty good deal.

I haven’t checked elsewhere, so I might be talking crap.

Merlin are also selling the XT 785 chainsets for £120 ish

They seem to be a bit more than that?

http://www.merlincycles.com/bike-shop/mtb-parts/transmission-gears/chainsets-mtb/shimano-m785-xt-10-speed-double-chainset.html

Merlin are also selling the XT 785 chainsets for £120 ish which struck me as a pretty good deal.

I haven’t checked elsewhere, so I might be talking crap.

Are you sure? The M785 chainset is more like £155 at Merlin, it’s last years M770 that is £120.

Edit – someone has spotted it already.

Oh, apologies – I just saw the email which I misread. That being said I reckon the M770s look nicer. I bought my M770s for £80 when they were brand new. Now that’s a bargain in today’s money.

Road 10 speed cassettes are 1mm more narrow than MTB ones. But I don’t know anyone who can index their gears to 0.1 of a mm.

Anybody received these yet?

Road 10 speed cassettes are 1mm more narrow than MTB ones. But I don’t know anyone who can index their gears to 0.1 of a mm.

Is that not just the cassette width tho? I thought the spacing was the same. You have to add a 1mm spacer to 10spd road cassettes when fitted to 9spd hubs, as shimano originally developed a special 10spd cassette body, which never really took off.

Anybody received these yet

Mine arrived this morning. Top merlin service again. Fitted it but not ridden yet.

Are there any wearing parts in the clutch?
Any downside to leaving it always engaged?