This looks really interesting. Professor Green, who apparently is a ‘rapper’, whatever that is, exploring the alienation of white working class males, and the flirtation with far right politics

Working Class White Men

He’s being interviewed on Five Live now and comes across really well, and it looks like this is a properly researched, insightful piece and not just some sensationalist poverty porn

Needs more Grayson Perry 😉

The world always needs more Grayson Perry! 😀

sensationalist poverty porn

Where I live, people will be watching this as an aspirational dream.

People with jobs who are on the telly!

He actually did a really good programme about mental health and the suicide of his father. So on the basis of the quality of his last documentary, I will watch it.

as a council estate free school meals kid who has many a time pissed in an outside privvy i’m interested in seeing this, he was on C4 news last night and seemed very switched on, his comment about white working class men waving the union jack of a country that had essentially failed them was very poignant.
the stats about higher education too, made me feel very lucky to have got an education at a time when it didn’t cost you £50k

Like him a lot. Hes not a fake, and would seem to have “been there and lived it”.

I watched an i-player documentary featuring him on the topic of homelessness. Jeez, it was heartbreaking and Professor Green was actually moved to tears. He genuinely cares, a lovely compassionate man.

Of course the crux was that the Tory party had let this happen in the 70’s and there is still insufficient social housing. It is downright cruel to make families continually move from temporary shithole to temporary shithole with the inevitable outcome that it’s impossible for them to turn their life around. Welcome to the 21st century UK.

Shall be watching tonight.

who apparently is a ‘rapper’, whatever that is

I saw a documentary on this once, called ‘8 mile’ or something like that.

I always thought the 8 Mile doc seemed a bit staged… prefer the gritty authenticity of Breakin 2′: Electric Boogaloo

Short documentary on rap:

In-depth all the same.

It’s worth catching the Five Live interview with him on iPlayer too.

It’s the whole first hour of today’s afternoon edition. Iain Duncan Smith was on the studio with him too, but was a lot quieter and less bombastic than usual, for some reason.

Professor Green made no attempt to disguise his contempt for Britain First, offering racist, immigrant-blaming answers to everything, and failing to blame those who are truly responsible for their plight

This looks really interesting. Professor Green, who apparently is a ‘rapper’, whatever that is

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It’s called ‘humour’. 🙄

Thanks will tune in.

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Professor Green made no attempt to disguise his contempt for Britain First, offering racist, immigrant-blaming answers to everything, and failing to blame those who are truly responsible for their plight

Well he won’t get far in the Tory Party with views like that…

What was he doing in the same room as IDS unless it was beating IDS to death?

What was he doing in the same room as IDS unless it was beating IDS to death?

Impromptu rap battle?

Professor Green

[quote]Hes not a fake[/quote]Well, maybe just a little bit 😀

Impromptu rap battle?

I’d rather watch him beat IDS to death with a pile of Job seekers allowance application forms…

Professor Green

Hes not a fake

I’m also betting that Iain Duncan Smith would probably fail if you asked him to make a horseshoe.

A double helping of sunny Canvey Island this evening

One of the lads from Prof G’s doc is from the rock

While over on Beeb 1

http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b09m2kvy

Here’s hoping the good people of Canvey are shown in a fair light ??

Phew Canvey Island is a tough gig. I worked out of there a short while for Shell in the late 70s. Does it still have perma frost from the storage of liquid methane ? The pubs in the middle were hard work for someone like me with a northern accent and I distinctly remember having to go to Southend to find a half decent restaurant back in the day.

As for Prof Green, good on him for having the nous to get these type of programs made, we need more authentic reality and not the usual brain dead plastic reality shi*e

Hope you didnt take it personally

You take your life in your hand entering a pub if you’re from South Benfleet … let alone being Northern.

Impromptu rap battle?

[video]http://youtu.be/7FmjDaBBhqw[/video]

who apparently is a ‘rapper’, whatever that is

It’s street poetry. First popularised by the people’s poet.

Saw him C4 news last night and he came across very well

That was actually pretty good.

(may’ve even got a bit dusty round here when that lad got into Cambridge)

+1

Excellent! Good to see the young lad, who only really wanted a job and a girlfriend not bother with all the Britain First nonsense. Good on him!

And just brilliant to see the lad get his Cambridge grades

I do think that Prof Green has more than a touch of the Grayson Perry about him in lots of ways

And Canvey came out with flying colours… Well it did in the BBC programme.

Jewish lady speech at the party “the best welcome we have ever received”

News Flash… Trump to recognise Canvey as Israel’s capital

Dang it, missed both. Will try and watch on catchup.

I stood behind Professor Green in the queue at McDonald’s near the New Forest once.
Not much of a claim to fame I’ll admit.
He’s quite tall.

I used to be ignorant about P.Green too and then I saw his previous documentaries.
I like him & will watch this on catch up, ta.

Interesting review here:

https://james-reviews.com/2018/01/10/630/

As a counterpoint to this I recently watched Danny Dyer’s Real Football Factories on Netflix. 6 episodes of pathetic man-children bragging about ‘pride’ and how they ‘don’t take any shit’, and presented by an idiot of epic proportions. It’s worth watching just to see how awful it is. A particular highlight was some arsehole in Burnley bragging about how many times he’d been in prison and how he’d have no problem with his teenage son following in his footsteps. Thankfully these ‘working class’ white men are in the minority.

Anyway, off topic. Must watch this catch-up on this later.

Oooh, it’s on youtube 🙂 Skip to 34.45 for aforementioned burnley ‘proud man’.

[video]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7vJFZ9odG0w[/video]

I’ve actually watched that as well Daz. Its (unintentional) comedy gold!!!

Danny Dyer is like a tick box exercise in answer to the question ‘what would the biggest bell end on the planet look and behave like?’

Just watched this. Another good piece of work from the chap.

The ‘useless class’ innit.

He’s a very impressive person.
The documentary raises issues around stress/strain from family breakdown; the working classes used to have the strongest family units, now they have the weakest. But being from a working class background also from Hackney, I just found that people weren’t generally interested in education in the first place – it was an inspiring teacher and a love of books that helped me, whereas my family thought education after a certain age was a waste of time. It has to be said, to a certain extent they were right, as if I’d become a plasterer at 16 and started buying houses in Hackney back then like some of my friends I’d have a lot more money now! But I’d have missed the opportunity to learn about something I was interested in.
I think lower middle class children are now starting to now face the problems which working class kids previously faced in terms of getting on in life, especially in terms of starting life in debt and ridiculous house prices.

Part two is tonight at ten. I’m sure it’ll be as well put together as last weeks

Badnewz – if you read Paul Abbott’s story of his family upbringing in Bury, which he based Shameless on, he makes the same point as you about attitude to education.

He had to hide the fact that he was writing screenplays, as his working class family, including his parents, would openly mock him for any sign of even the most modest ambition.

When he won a BBC young writers award while at school, he went to great lengths to make sure none of his family found out about it, fearful of the merciless piss taking he’d receive.

It seems like they were not just dismissive of education, but only contemptuous of it. I saw plenty of that when I was growing up too.