FunkyDunc - Member
Mikey74/Dales Rider your kidding yourselves if you think mtb is an extreme sport. For a very few, they guys who do Redbull Rampage etc it is extreme but even then they still appear to get more injured then killed.
TRUE extreme sports you know that if you make a mistake you will die and if you are lucky end up very badly injured.
Well I think you will find it is, when it comes to categorising for insurance its way up there.
The companies lump sports into 7 cats
Cat 1 includes Abseiling, Cheerleading, Cricket, Hiking (up to 2500m)-includes mountain walking (excluding the use of crampons & ice axes), Kayaking (up to grade 3), Mountain biking on cycle paths (not on trails and non-competitive), Scuba diving (to 30m accompanied, 50m if qualified/under instruction), Via ferrata, Volleyball, Walking(up to 2500m), Wall ball, Water polo, Wheelchair curling, Windsurfing (inside 12mile limit),
Thats just a few
Cat 2 Ballooning, Bicycle polo, Bouldering, BMX freestyle, BMX racing, Downhill skiing, Fin swimming,Indoor climbing, In-line skating, Iron man (comp), Mountain biking-cross country (non competitive), Rock climbing excluding climbs with crevassed approaches or descents and also any snow/ice climbing (See ice climbing), Roller blading
Cat 3 Mountain biking downhill, Mountain Biking stunting & jumping, Mountain Unicycling (downhill &/or competition), Mountaineering (with ropes and/or guides) limited to 4,000m when outside of Europe
So they percieve the risk and the potential outcome as more serious than rock climbing, which gets the label "Extreme sport"
MrNice - Member
Re the comparisons with climbing, there's a saying that "there are old climbers and bold climbers but no old, bold climbers". Basically you either grow out of that sort of risk taking or die doing it. It's only a matter of time before you misjudge something when the margin for error is that small. See John Bachar, Jimmy Jewel etc for details.
They were unlucky, Bachar was hit by rockfall an objective danger and Jimmy reversing an easy climb.
What the lad was doing on the program had no real objective dangers only subjective as the majority of rock climbing is. The difference being rock climbing has a level of skill, what was shown has no level of skill what so ever. Hence the reason why I turned it off it was just sensationalising some young kids who took the biggest risks by doing something illegal.
BTW I'm both an old an bold rock climber.