73% want to remain part of the UK, inc' 52% of Catholics.
Oddly when I was growing up as an Ulster protestant I'd have voted for a
United Ireland.
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Given the state or the economy in the South I imagine that this was the most favourable point in recent history to conduct this survey. If the South was still the Celtic Tiger I imagine folks in the North might have been more inclined to think a united ireland was a good idea.
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I ask the Irish rather often if they'd like the North join the Republic. They seem to be mostly against it. Why? Because the North doesn't really know if it wants to join or not. TBH whatever happens there'll always be those opposed to it.
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Doesnt Gerry Adams have the safest seat of any UK MP? Not that he would ever go to the houses of parliament of course.
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I think the numbers may be skewed because of the state of the Republic these days. But mind you in saying that i don't think a united ireland will ever be achieved until the society de-polarises, I've said it many times, if a UI is to happen they need to take the unionists willingly with them, either that or you just take a whole shedload of baggage. It'll be atleast another 30 years if it is going to happen imo.
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If people are voting along economic lines, that could be considered a positive sign perhaps.
I've always wondered - is it significant whether or not people from NI describe themselves as Irish or British btw?
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I see myself as Brirish
I always say I'm Irish when asked though.
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The video man should present the news.
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If people are voting along economic lines, that could be considered a positive sign perhaps.
Any i know are Irish pure and simple and it's quite important to them. I've a skewed experience of that in that people i know only come from republican areas.I've always wondered - is it significant whether or not people from NI describe themselves as Irish or British btw?
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I reckon the status of a United Ireland or not will become less relevant as we move towards more integrated Europe. Whether or not NI is part of the UK will matter less as these all become parts of the greater European Nation
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Federal Britain...
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"Sits back with large coffee and fig rolls in hand"
Carry on...
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Call For Tankslapper.....
Is there a Mr Tanskslapper in the house?
Call For Tankslapper.....
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I'm Northern Irish
I have a british passport and I'd class myself as British rather than Irish if I had to chose but I don't get hung up on it
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I always thought it was the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland... So you would not be really British, would you? Or am I totally wrong?
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ooooohh.......... this is rapidly moving into a Garibaldi phase
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I'm Northern Irish and carry a British passport. However I would have no problems being descibed as Irish or being 'from Ireland'
My parents/grandparents are strongly unionist and would be against any sort of agreements with SF or the Rep of Ireland etc. I think that this Paisley type 'No Never' attitude is fading out. Younger people in NI are more concerned with jobs/housing/education etc than being dragged into sectarian politics. Also many politians here have little credibility (Iris Robinson) and seem to be in it for the money and care little about issues on the ground.
I think one of the key changes in my views came from attending a mixed secondary school, this was very rare in NI 20 years ago and even now most schools are classed as protestant or catholic. It is only through integrated education, sporting clubs and social events that this understanding can develop and should be encouraged where possible.
Many of My friends who live in Rep Of Ire currently are looking to leave due to the lack of prospects and think that a better quality of life can be had elsewhere.
I think due to the economic situation in the south the poll has come out this way, but I don't see that changing in my lifetime, I would definately want to remain part of the UK for albeit slightly better prospects.
It would be interesting to see the ages of the people surveyed and where in NI they were from.
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Hairychested - Member
I always thought it was the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland... So you would not be really British, would you? Or am I totally wrong?
britain and great britain are two different things
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I always thought it was the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland... So you would not be really British, would you?
Citizenship /= nationality.Posted 11 months ago # -
This has always been the case, even when we still held the republic. We proposed home rule for all Ireland early last century and the Ulster protestants were opposed to it.
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Ok, so Britain is the island next to Ireland (the larger one). What is Great Britain if not Britain that's Great?
Loads of NI people I know say they're Irish. Few say British. It was very different when I lived in London(-ish).
Citizenship doesn't equal nationality, no argument here. Hence you can be Irish and British at the same time, would it be correct?
BTW If Ulster joined RoI even Chain Reaction would be very expensive.Posted 11 months ago # -
I always thought it was the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland... So you would not be really British, would you?
The Good Friday agreement gave anyone from Northern Ireland the right to identify themselves as British or Irish or both
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Thanks, I really didn't know. That explains a lot.
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Citizenship doesn't equal nationality, no argument here. Hence you can be Irish and British at the same time, would it be correct?
Yeah, you can be Scottish and British too. Although would it be more accurate to call yourself Northern Irish and British? Or Ulster? Hard to say.
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The Good Friday agreement gave anyone from Northern Ireland the right to identify themselves as British or Irish or both
Huh? Couldn't you always British and/or Irish citizenship if you were born in the relevant area (
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The 'Great' in Great Britain comes from time we had territory in Brittany.
This island was 'Greater Britain' and Brittany was 'Lesser Britain'.
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The passport is a UK passport. As in the United kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland
Great britain is the island that is made up of Scotland England and Wales IIRC
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Huh? Couldn't you always British and/or Irish citizenship if you were born in the relevant area
No idea but the relevant paragraph is below .....
The "birthright" of all the people of Northern Ireland "to identify themselves and be accepted as Irish or British, or both", is also recognised, as well as their right to hold both British and Irish citizenship; and that these rights are not to be affected should Northern Ireland become a part of a united Ireland.
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uplink: the way I read this (and for whatever it's worth wikipedia agrees) is that this is not the creation of a right but a recognition of a fact
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Someone call
I'm all for a united Ireland so much so I want it as soon as possible.......
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Someone call
I'm all for a united Ireland so much so I want it as soon as possible.......
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If the ENglish were repatriated back to Denmark holland and Germany couldnt we revert back to being called Britain and have a united britannia and seek closer alliance with Brittany ?
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No, you'd have repatriate the Brits to central Europe then. Actually, you'd have to kick everyone out and install a big ice cap.
Or better still - move all the continents of the world back together in a giant continent near the equator.
And possibly melt the entire earth.
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