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  • Peter Oborne and the Telegraph
  • Cougar
    Full Member

    Amazed this hasn’t cropped up yet.

    https://www.opendemocracy.net/ourkingdom/peter-oborne/why-i-have-resigned-from-telegraph

    The Chief Political Officer at the Telegraph has resigned from his role, and explains in fascinating detail exactly why.

    molgrips
    Free Member

    Blimey 😯

    mefty
    Free Member

    Oborne brilliantly fills the role of the pompous, opinionated Latin teacher at some third rate prep school. The telegraph has struggled with the digital side of the business and they do seem to be sacrificing the dead tree business for digital. This has without doubt caused a huge amount of upset and they have sacked a lot of well known(and expensive) journalists. Whether all his claims stand up to scrutiny is open to question – but it is all good fun.

    He has written some very good books on cricket and I do quite like him (but then I went to a third rate prep school).

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    kimbers
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    Its funny every single news outlet was leading with HSBC stories, not a peep on the telegraph, it was painfully obvious they were avoiding it.

    Sad as the expenses scandal would never have come to light if they hadn’t pursued it

    Then there is the bonkers anti- climate change guy they have on staff

    A woman on my evening class worked there for the last ten years and she was saying very similar things, that the paper was just chasing click bait, especially the launch of the telegraph Man section
    She said that it was chaos on a daily basis, tryingbto generate online content and was complaining that they were paying for a done operator on stand by but had no idea what to use it for

    Anyone here of MBR staffers quitting over Sorenson of a bad Specialized review 😉

    badnewz
    Free Member

    Obourne’s articles have been getting decimated by the comments on the DT. He is an average journalist at best, and no great loss. But the DT has been going downhill for a long time now, featuring as much fluff as MailOnline.

    ernie_lynch
    Free Member

    It’s a long and rambling article and I got a little bored after a while. But I have to say that political differences aside I agree with his description of it representing “quality British journalism” with reference to the Telegraph’s past standing. There was a time long ago when I would regularly buy it as an alternative to the Guardian.

    But I disagree with the apparent suggestion that recent developments have undermined its previous standing. IMO it went downhill after Conrad Black, a dodgy crook, acquired it.

    beej
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    Interesting read. I subscribed for many years, mainly for the crossword and sports but cancelled about 3 years ago as I couldn’t stand the editorial stance any more – there was a shift from news reporting to promoting a very clear agenda that I didn’t agree with.

    I don’t buy newspapers now but my most read newspaper website is the Guardian.

    Junkyard
    Free Member

    http://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/banker-bashing-monday/page/4#post-6708198

    Beendun by JHJ – he gave it his own spin mind focusing on jersey at the end .

    badnewz
    Free Member

    Also Obourne underestimates how the internet has undermined the traditional newspaper business. The fact is it’s impossible to make much money out of papers now, The Guardian is a massive loss-maker, but I get the impression the DT owners wanted to try to stem the losses and Obourne has interpreted that as some kind of mismanagement.

    maccruiskeen
    Full Member

    The telegraph has struggled with the digital side of the business and they do seem to be sacrificing the dead tree business for digital. This has without doubt caused a huge amount of upset and they have sacked a lot of well known(and expensive) journalists. Whether all his claims stand up to scrutiny is open to question – but it is all good fun.

    The cull of ‘well known and expensive journalists’ isn’t just about financial constraint. Newspapers aren’t operated for profit they are operated by people who seek to influence, some national titles have never made a profit in their entire operational life. If money was the motive there’d be no newspapers at all anymore – a lot of the bloodletting is due to editorial pressure

    This is an excerpt for a comment section of this article from 2009
    “The Telegraph news operation is now run by the same people who were in charge of the Mail during MMR. Their definition of journalism is completely alien to the that which existed before their arrival 2-2.5 years ago. Whereas previously specialist journalists were tasked with knowing their subjects and evaluating the truth/worth of stories, they are now tasked with doing what they are told. If a reporter refuses to write a story on the grounds that it is not true, the Mail-reject news managers simply get an inexperienced, low paid newcomer to do it and start planning how to get rid of the journalist with standards.”

    Its not a case getting rid of expensive journalists in favour of cheap ones it replacing journalists about with yes-men

    Out of around 25 news journalists who were at the Telegraph when it was a quality newspaper before the arrival of the Mail rejects, only three remain. Leaving is the only option for those refuse to have speculation, exaggeration, omission and conscious distortion appear under their names.

    Which is now why you get sub-Mail un-fact stories like the Telegraph’s remarkable ‘Only 100 Cod left in the North Sea’ in which it turned out they were wrong by a margin of half a billion.

    mefty
    Free Member

    The Telegraph has been consistently profitable, but management will be doubt be jealous of the Mail’s online success and have chased it at the expense of “quality” journalism . (The Mail has been consistently profitable too.) In fact the only papers that consistently lose money are the Guardian and the Times.

    EDIT: I forgot the Independent, but then so largely has the paying public.

    ernie_lynch
    Free Member

    If the Daily Telegraph isn’t making a profit then the rest of the Telegraph Media Group must be making megabucks.

    Telegraph Media Group made record £60m profit last year

    “Rival titles, such as The Times, The Independent and The Guardian, have been recording losses for several years. In 2012, TMG made £58.4m, and in 2011 its profit was £55.7m.”

    EDIT : I’ve just checked and the only other publication in the Telegraph “Media Group” is the Sunday Telegraph.

    epicyclo
    Full Member

    beej – Member
    … – there was a shift from news reporting to promoting a very clear agenda that I didn’t agree with…

    This is just about universal now. I hadn’t really paid too much attention to it until the Referendum, at which point it became very obvious when I started looking at the “news” with a more questioning eye.

    I don’t mind editorial bias, every paper has its market, but there used to be a clear distinction between editorial and news, particularly the quality papers.

    Then you start to think whose interests are being pushed, and

    maccruiskeen – Member
    …The cull of ‘well known and expensive journalists’ isn’t just about financial constraint. Newspapers aren’t operated for profit they are operated by people who seek to influence,…

    once you work out who the owners are, you realise you’ve been consuming fastfood news for years.

    The problem for these papers is a reputation built up over a century is worthless the moment your client group get pissed off by obvious BS, and I’m sure that’s what’s happened to a sizeable part of their readership.

    (I used to get 2 dailies plus 3 Sunday papers. Not any more. I won’t give another penny to trash peddlers. I’m sure I’m not the only one.)

    kimbers
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    I thought the telegraphs problem was that their readership was just getting old and dying off
    Though with an aging population you’d think they’re be sorted

    Apparently HSBC did stop their advertising with the Guardian over the story

    binners
    Full Member

    Newspaper Owned by Tax Dodgers in Not Reporting Tax Dodging Shocka!!!!

    kimbers
    Full Member

    it gets better the barclay brothers = telegraph = yodel !!
    the worst parcel company in the world!

    http://www.theguardian.com/media/2015/feb/19/telegraph-250m-loan-hsbc-editorial-changes-yodel

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