Ok - with it being so streamlined it does not look like that would generate enough thrust.
If thats how it works tho thats fine.
Its still cheating. I think they have a conveyor belt hidden somewhere
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The harder one to grasp is that they plan to try using this vehicle to travel upwind at a faster speed than the opposite wind speed!!
Given that it can travel 3x faster than the wind downwind, this seems entirely plausible. What I can't work out is how it'll get started. Downwind the wind just pushes it a bit until it reaches windspeed, but that's clearly not going to work upwind. Or does it not have to propel itself from a standstill for it to count?
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Most sail powered craft can sail upwind, although they need to exert a large force through their fins or keels to achieve it.
But whenever I look at wind farms I'm always worried that the effect of all those propellors will make the earth start to spin faster.
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What I can't work out is how it'll get started. Downwind the wind just pushes it a bit until it reaches windspeed, but that's clearly not going to work upwind.
IIRC going upwind it works the opposite way - ie the prop drives the wheels. Hence it starts from standstill in just the same way as when it's running at speed. I'm fairly sure they run variable pitch props on these, so can set it up to extract lots of force when stationary.
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Slinky spring down an up escalator.
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Hmm, the turbine thingy in the exhaust....interesting...but how about using the pressure of the exhaust gasses to increase the flow of the incoming air into the engine combustion chambers, you could then effectively increase the swept volume of the engine meaning that you could use a smaller engine but get higher power output like you would from a bigger engine, sure you'll have some lag between the turbine spinning up as the exhaust flow increases and the flow from the input turbine but just think of the possibilities.
Why has no-one thought of that befor...
er....oh, hang on...
Turbocharger?
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steorn
Why am I not surprised to see that their claim involves magnets?
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Well, apparently it IS possible! You just need a superconducting loop to create a "time crystal".
http://www.kurzweilai.net/forums/topic/death-defying-time-crystal-could-outlast-the-universePosted 4 months ago # -
The answer is to do with;
1) Gravity
2) Wave Harmonics
3) Whirlpools
4) Electronic inductionand maybe gyroscopes or Nazi scientists or something.
An interesting read on this type of stuff is "Hunt for Zero Point" by Nick Cook for the nazi anti-gravity, and "The Scientist, the Madman, the Thief and their Lightbulb" by Keith Tutt on perpetual motion machines and numerous claims by people to have built them.
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