leffeboy – Member
I really dislike any form of litter, whether it be for someone else’s purpose or not
but you just left litter with the purpose of making a point about litter but now it can’t be removed except by the gifted

What utter tosh, of course it could be removed,

1, by anyone with any feeling

2, by the council, or anyone with a pair of bolt cutters.

Shame the councils see this littering as low priority, to my mind it is just littering, or plain laziness, not sure which is worse.

Elfinsafety – Member
but just how would you…
1, know where I live

2, gain access to my house

3, Actually laugh, you know, what with that hard done by life that you have?

Never underestimate the Power of the Elf…

And you’re calling me an arse? You, what thinks it’s hilarious to fiddle with someone’s lock?

What if the geezer had come out and given you a proper serious kicking, leaving you in hospital with a perforated lung and a ruptured spleen? And a fractured eye socket and smashed jaw? Would you think it

Behave you moron, I know anything goes on the internet, but really you are going above & beyond 😆

but it was you who did the littering, you’re complaining about yourself. Awesome piece of attention seeking 🙂

Ooh he’s called me a moron now! Excellent! 😀

Is your life really that sad and empty, are you really that inadequate and pathetic, that you get your kicks from resetting someone’s lock so they can’t use it again, just to make some misguided and pointless moral statement?

Ha ha! But we’re not laughing with you; we’re laughing at you. You weren’t expecting that, were you?? Eh?

Your biggest mistake was coming on here and expecting to find support for your behaviour.

Your second biggest mistake was thinking you could ever possibly outwit the Elf…

Tell im to be’ave imself, someone… 🙄

Oh God, I give in, but before I kill myself just to clarify…

I dislike people who leave locks on street furniture (bike sheds or work premisses are fine)

I have no erge to kill Fred (blatant lie)

I bow down to everyone who disagrees with me

😉

Oh, BTW Fred, when you re read this in the morning, you will see that I just wanted to re open a debate that, if I was vain, had lost some 10 months ago.

Just so you know, I don’t care what the internet thinks about me, I can live with myself.

scott_mcavennie2 – Member
Blatantly untrue.

What actually happened was that you were bored outside the gym, saw a cheap lock and then invented this whole story. Quite what possessed you to actually post it is a mystery. Drink perhaps?

+1

are you in that much need of attention…

I reckon you should see someone professional about your insecurity and inadequacy issues.

See, I’ve done you a favour there, giving you that advice. One day you might thank me for it.

S’alright though; I don’t mind being nice and helping folk out. Cos that’s the kind, caring, sensitive soul I am. 🙂

Elf, just throwing it out there, but referring to yourself as

the Elf

Makes you sound a bit up your own airsole…

The Southern Yeti 😉

pastcaring – Member
scott_mcavennie2 – Member
Blatantly untrue.

What actually happened was that you were bored outside the gym, saw a cheap lock and then invented this whole story. Quite what possessed you to actually post it is a mystery. Drink perhaps?

+1

are you in that much need of attention…

Behave, if you really thought I was an attention seeker then why would you post?

Disappointed, that was clearly just the 5 minute argument
[video]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kQFKtI6gn9Y[/video]

Shut up Yeti. At least mine’s not as hairy….

EEUUUR! Clinkers!

RUN! HIDE!!!!

your right, i shouldn’t encourage your personality defect. maybe you should take elfs advice and see a professional.

I dislike people who leave locks on street furniture

You obvioulsy dont have to commute a large distance tne lock your bike up to street furniture. No way I am carrying a New York everywhere with me. I am reassured to know that one day a person of your impecable standards will add super glue the lock,leaving it unoperable, as a wonderful statement against littering.

Elf has only ever been a professional ****, why would I take his (said on presumption) advice?

Why would you leave a combination lock anywhere??? All that does is give thieves the time to crack the code at their leisure without them looking suspicious. Once they have stealing your bike is a quick job.
Not a good idea in my opinion, I reckon 2unfit2ride may have given said lock owner a wake up call in bike security.

Oh dear God, Junkyard, that’s entirely the point, just so you don’t have to carry your crap around with you then I have to deal with it on an everyday basis, just to accommodate you, why?

So rude, aren’t you?

Any need for it?

You resorting to personal insults just proves I’ve done you. I’d say your best bet is to just slip quietly away now, and try to hope everyone forgets this unfortunate and embarrassing (for you) episode.

ooops I seem to have posted in the middle of a huuuuuuge row . . . . . I’m putting the keyboard down, backing away quietly . . . . . . nice n easy now . . . .

I give in, ‘The Elf’ obviously has me quaking in a corner, just so ‘he’ knows, the word I used was T W AT, nothing more.

Do I in reality bow down? probably not, but I really would’t want to get in the way of the mighty Elf… It might upset ‘him’.

Off you go then. There’s a good boy.

don’t have to carry your crap around with you then I have to deal with it on an everyday basis, just to accommodate you, why?

It weighs over 2 kg- fair amount to lug 32 miles to not offend you in the very short distance from your car to your destination

How about geeting annoyed at the lack of adequate secure cycle parking facilities in this country or the rate of bike thefts

Cyclists Liberation Front!

Splitters!

scott_mcavennie2 – Member
Blatantly untrue.

What actually happened was that you were bored outside the gym, saw a cheap lock and then invented this whole story. Quite what possessed you to actually post it is a mystery. Drink perhaps?

Is this the singletrack world equivalent of a porn mag letter page?

Ive read through the post and like others have said, you could have done a number of things but chose to be a bit of an arse about it, if it bothered you that much you could have informed the gym or the council

ftw if I came across a random bod messing with my bike lock they wouldnt be using their wrists for 6 to 8 weeks, peoples morales can and do fall below what you perceive to be “littering”

What do you know about the owner of the lock?

I ask because when I lived in Dewsbury and worked for the YOT, we had a boy with fairly MLD and Autism involved in petty crime. Alongside social services we managed to get him set up working part-time at a local garden centre, which he would cycle to, and where a lock had been left to help add routine to his day. He’d ride to work, lock his bike up with the lock, work pretty much for free, and then cycle back home. And then some prick changed the combination to his lock, and panicking he left his bike unlocked because he didn’t want to let down his work, and the bike was stolen, and he went off the rails in a fairly massive way.

Granted, this is a fairly extreme case, but your ‘joke’ is fairly hollow and meaningless. You could have put a note on it; or moved it elsewhere but left the combination unchanged. By not doing either of these things your behaviour becomes an example of dominance and controlling behaviour, which I’d consider fairly worrying if it was me…

Me? I agree with you about locks on street furniture, for the record. But I fail to see how you’ve taught anyone anything.

bullhearts sentiments +1

2unfit – wow, you’re a nice guy..

While changing the combination does seem like making a mountain out of a molehill, I’m rather more worried by the people who are suggesting that they would commit serious acts of violence over a bike lock. Hopefully, they’re ridiculous keyboard warriors, as if they’re serious, they really do have a bit of a hard think about their priorities and values.

Frankly I’m more worried about the amount of people who take other people seriously on the internet. I mean, after 20 years, surely you get it?

When someone leaves a lock on a lamp-post, is it fair game to lock your bike there too?

I’m wondering if some people use it as a sign to say they’ve reserved that space, which is totally out of order, but some people are eejits and may lock your bike up with their lock if you ‘stole’ their parking place.

lock your bike there if you wish I just dont want to carry a heavy lock over that distance

So a while back I was waiting outside a gym for my daughters to finish their latest fad lesson

The owner of the lock might need a new one – but you’re still the one with fat kids.

He wins.

😉

2unfit2ride – Member
Oh dear God, Junkyard, that’s entirely the point, just so you don’t have to carry your crap around with you then I have to deal with it on an everyday basis, just to accommodate you, why?

Do you realise how precious that makes you sound? A few locks on a lamp post/bench are something you have to take time to deal with?