here's a crop (about 100%) of a cracking little lad:
taken with the gf1 20mm pancake
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Panasonic GF1 thoughts?
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Panasonic LUMIX GF1 Kit & DMW-LVF1 Live Vew Finder going soon, already up to £535...
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#2 is stunning
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Isn't the main advantage of the GF1 that it has a much bigger sensor than compacts?
if you read up on the 4thirds system - it's much more than just sensor size.
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it's much more than just sensor size.
yeah, patchily accepted lens standard goes on to be rejigged for mirrorless (incompatible) design after only 2 or 3 years:(
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Cheers Simon.
Four thirds lenses are compatible with an adaptor. Not really to up on the technical details of all the different systems tbh.
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Four thirds lenses are compatible with an adaptor.
sorta, I believe there are autofocus issues too...
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Ah ok, looks like a few of em will. http://panasonic.jp/support/global/cs/dsc/connect/g1.html
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the first version is much better
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Thanks - I decided that too. I get carried away sometimes playing around in Lightroom.
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Sony have just shown a new Alpha series compact with interchangable lenses, and some whizzy in-camera features, like a six-shot auto panorama, a low-light feature that shoots a number of different exposures then combines them for an ultra low-noise result. 2010 release. Could be interesting.
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Sony have just shown a new Alpha series compact:
APS-C sensor similar size to Nikon and Canon non-full frame DSLRs
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Intresting as looking for a new camera, fed up of the DSLR
Was looking at the Digital Medium Format cameras.Also what has cault my eye is the Cannon Pro compact range with a built in zoom lens.
A pro friend uses this more than his DSLR.
Whats this G1 compared to the Cannon/Nikon Pro compacts,
Also whats the flash like on this does it
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Regarding the Cannon G11
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Sony's concept is very interesting. An ultra compact with the flexibility of a my D40. I thought that was expected from Canon initially for this PMA.
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That Sony does look interesting, but imo it's fugly - which is obviously the most important thing.
Grantway I don't really know about the G11 - maybe start another thread?
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Got to have play with one of these in currys the other day. Its small but heavy (from a compact background), dense is probably a better description. The thumb wheel is excellent it just makes adjustments super easy almost worth buying just for the ease of use. They didn't have the 20mm in stock just the 14-45 which does add bulk.
I was also told that if you buy a camera instore from Currys and find it cheaper within a 30mile radius they'll match the price and take off 10% of the difference.
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Couple from last night
Not sure where you are but Mathers in Bolton were the cheapest price I could find when I got mine.
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Well, I got one in the end! Went for the twin lens kit and had a play about with both lenses too - the 20mm really is quality, and the zoom is useful for outside the house I've found.
I'll freely admit I'm no pro, and to be honest going from a point and shoot compact to this is quite a step, but it's one I'm looking forward to getting better at....
And what better subject than my new little chappy!
Wouldn't have got shots like this with my old canon compact!I've a book recommended bt someone off here on the way, and basically will snap until I get better!
DrP
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I'll take your 456 Grum and raise it a 456
Enjoying getting to use my GF1 for biking shots, still a fair bit to learn though to get consistently good shots. Only major drawback I'm finding so far is that the screen is very refelctive making it hard to see in bright light.
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Grumm, that mountain shot is really lovely, and the On-One positively glows! Must say, though, that mountain photo is outstanding; I just want go there, now.
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All these photography threads have gotten me in the mood for a new camera.
The shop assistant suggested a canon 1000 slr with a 50mm lens as an alternative to the GF1.
It doesnt have the video, its not as stylish but they said it would take a better pic and is £300 cheaper, does the collective agree?
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does the collective agree?
fat chance on that on any topic
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The shop assistant suggested a canon 1000 slr with a 50mm lens as an alternative to the GF1.
It doesnt have the video, its not as stylish but they said it would take a better pic and is £300 cheaper, does the collective agree?
well, it's hardly a reasonable comparison, is it?. One's a DSLR, and the other's a compact with removable lenses. As to the Canon taking a ‘better pic’, well, that's a moot point. Certainly I expect technically most people would have difficulty telling the results apart if all settings were the same on a test subject; after all, the sensor is the same size, whereas an actual compact has a much smaller sensor. Yes, there's a £300 difference, but the point is the GF1 isn't a DSLR, and that in itself is enough to sell the camera. If I went into a shop looking to buy a camera like a GF1, and the guy tried to sell me a DSLR on those grounds I'd politely ask him to prove his statement, reminding him that what I'm actually looking for is an alternative to a DSLR.
[edit] As an owner of a DSLR and a compact, (D60/Lumix TZ3), I could really use some thing like a GF1 or the Sony. I regularly take lots of photos in circumstances where I could do with the larger sensor size, but a DSLR is a real liability, to the extent that I have been specifically told to stop taking photos, whereas a compact wouldn't attract attention. I'm talking concert photography, where security apes get snotty about cameras that look professional.[/edit]Posted 2 years ago # -
Thanks CountZero - bigger version here.
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4011/4412625750_cbf4f2de68_b.jpg
It's Claife Heights in the Lakes - went out on the bike for the first time in months today (with Shoei off here) and had a great time.
Matt-P - I've got one of these for the reflective screen issue - works a treat. http://www.clearviewer.com/
starseven - I would agree with CountZero's take on it. I'm sure a Canon DSLR will take great pics but it's a different animal really. I would certainly question that the Canon will necesarily 'take better pics'. I have certainly taken a lot of pics that I like that I just wouldn't have taken with a big SLR.
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Just to be pedantic, the size of the GF1 sensor is actually smaller than Canon's 1000 sensor. Bigger than most compacts, smaller than mainstream and full frame DSLR sensors.
If you care about size get an LX3, if you care about flexibility get a small DSLR if you want a compromise between them get the GF1. Make sure you have plenty of cash though, the moment you will need more zoom or a wider angle is the moment you've spent 1000£+
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The difference in size between the APS-C sensor (which I think is what the Canon 1000 will use?) and the GF1 sensor is pretty negligible really - and that's mainly an issue just in low light situations anyway isn't it?
The GF1 has more megapixels too
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Thanks everyone,
Sounds a bit like theres a Shimano v Campag thing brewing here :-).The shop assistant was really helpful. Im a novice with the cameras and asked her to suggest some alternatives to the GF1 with the emphasis on picture quality. She also said I could take in a memeory card use both and compare the shots in my own time which struck me as good service.
I think they were pretty straight really telling me the features of the GF1 the Canon. The GF1 felt like a real quality piece of kit but was a lot more than the canon. Im going to take a look at the LX3 balance up the facts, consider the features then choose something random just like always.
Cheers
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The difference in size between the APS-C sensor (which I think is what the Canon 1000 will use?) and the GF1 sensor is pretty negligible really - and that's mainly an issue just in low light situations anyway isn't it?
The GF1 has more megapixels too
Actually the difference is big enough for the crop factor to increase from 1.5 to 2 (ie a 20mm lens is 40mm on a four thirds camera while only 30mm on a APS-C sized sensor camera). More pixels + smaller sensor will give a lot more noise in low light situations which is a big drawback of the GF1.
My other main problem of having the GF1 as your one and only camera is the lack of native wide angle lenses - native as in without adaptors. The only wide angle lens is a 1000£ job from Leica. So I think I will stick to my opinion, it can be your second or third camera otherwise it requires a lot of money and compromises.
Having said all that I still want one but can't justify a third camera at even the 570£ with the rebate. Maybe when the EPL-1 settles down in the sub 500£ range the GF1 will also get a bit of a discount.
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It's Claife Heights in the Lakes - went out on the bike for the first time in months today (with Shoei off here) and had a great time.
And cant i tell. Arms are screwed but was great to get out and a nice route as well.
The offer of taking in a memory card or two and then looking at the shots after is a good idea.
If you do that, then get a trial copy of Lightroom. You can then take pics of the same object/view and compare them in lightroom.
I do that for comparing the jpg vs the RAW file.Or just buy the GF1 and then endure Mr Barnes having a go
(no offence, you posted some amazing pics Simon)
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