I thought it was great. In fact I hope that bloke 'aligned' my ST4. It's not like I've never attacked a bike with a hammer
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Anyway, I'm no engineer but am from a mechanical background & after watching the vid am even MORE pleased that I bought a 5 last year! Made me think of my apprentiship, 'it's not in line, 'WHACK', thats it!'
I love my 5 me, in fact it's so good my mate's getting one as well.Posted 3 months ago # -
Cracking video.. Wish I had kept my 5 now. Sold it about 18 months ago. Got a Soul now tho but being eyeing up another 5 frame... Time to raid the piggy bank me thinks!!!
Good to see the making of the frame, id love to be let loose in the parts area with a nice shiny 16" Apple Green 5 frame.
Not to everybodies taste but I think they are great looking bikes and they do ride really well, brought my riding on a huge amount... Now if i can just get motivated to get back on the bike I could maybe justify a new frame.Posted 3 months ago # -
yes they are a nice bikes. I am not a hater; I just think that they are over priced. Especially seeing the quality control procedures. Still I gues an item is worth what people will pay for them so I can't really say that they are over priced. I just don't think they are worth the price.
That's not quality control, it's quality assurance. Quality control would be checking the frame at the end of manufacture, then binning the mis-aligned units. They're correcting a process variation prior to a stage of the process at which point, alignment is critical (as they wouldn't be able to correct it after heat treating). The upshot being, that they assuring that the final product is fit for purpose. I'm not too clued up on how it looks from an engineering point of view, but there's nothing wrong with the quality proceedures.
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Alex - Member
In fact I hope that bloke 'aligned' my ST4.
ST4 is made in Taiwan isn't it? Most Oranges are, only the filing cabinets are UK made IIRC.
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Nope. Mine says hand built in Halifax. Think only the HT's made elsewhere.
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I stand corrected, thanks for that!
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I remember reading that Mountain Cycle used to skip quite a few San Andreas frames when they came back from heat treatment if they were mis-aligned, once 6061 is heat treated to T6 you cannot realign it. I'd rather someone 'tweaked'* the frame straight before that than sold me a bent one.
* This is also an expression I've heard in the vehicle body repair industry, as your car is strapped to a body jig, to 'tweak' out that rear end shunt.........
Had a 5 and San Andreas, loved both, should have kept both.
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As an ex welder & sheet metal worker from Rolls Royce, I loved it!
Loved seeing Guys first attempt at TIG - electrode blobbed, I remember doing that!
And that's just how we'd 'correct' a tail bearing housing after welding the spokes on - a nice big 'persuader' and a bar. Nothing wrong with a bit of cold setting.
Remember metals are 'elastic', they will spring back under normal load. Cold setting pushes them past their elastic limit so they deform into the position you want. You've usually got the component held in a fixture and apply a force in a way it won't see in use, hence the block under one dropout and hit the other one.Posted 3 months ago # -
I loved the video.
It is very amusing to read everyone's comments about Guy Martin... as if he wasn't going to read them.. if he is big into riding how do you know he's not here?
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Are you hallucinating negative comments about Guy Martin?
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if he is big into riding how do you know he's not here?
Guy, get a bloody haircut boy!
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@Northwind - God no, not in the slightest, it's just funny to think he may very well read all we say about him. If I'm honest, he makes me go a bit giddy!
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I thought it was a great video.
Interesting how people think bending frame components by hand is a bad thing but if a machine bends it then it's OK. That type of cold setting is common in many industries. Kudos for Orange showing how it how it is.
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Guy is great and Orange too - good choice of combination.
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