If you want luxury and off road ability, it has to be a Range Rover (NOT a Sport), a Landcruiser or a Disco.
Fiat Panda 4x4?
Don't allow your judgements about the RR Sport's image to overshadow the reality of its off-road capabilities.
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Opinions on a Cayenne.....*lights paper, stands well back*
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Posted 1 year ago #
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Flange - WTF has happened to you my boy?
I remember when you were happiest driving around in that mobile dungeon of a van, crimping it's boost pipe whenever you got the chance.
No matter how dreamy you are - you will look an utter homo driving a Porsche.
Now stop with this nonsense - NOW!
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Hang on chaps, I think we're getting a bit out of context here (apologies for my 'Sorry Dad' comment by the way - hadn't read the entire post)
First off, this post is about buying a Cayenee, not racing other people in cars. I like having a bit of power that should I have the chance on a bit of deserted motorway (M25 springs to mind) then I can 'open the taps' and enjoy the thrill of driving quickly. I get caught speeding and its my own fault - my 4 points aquired from speeding on my motorbike is proof of this. On the flip side, racing on public roads is not something I endorse and no matter how good a driver you think you are, you can't predict whats round the corner/coming out of a junction/running out from behind a parked car. To me its too risky and not something I do.
Lets not turn this into another 'all speed kills' thread if possible
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No worries I was a bit miffed by the whole racing thing.
That porker is still a bit pants though, fast estate all the way!
RS6 has got to be the thing.
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Jools - anyone that goes 90 around a blind narrow bend is utterly stupid.
Cop driving taught me to go faster in the "right" place but also slower around the "wrong" corner. For example most of us might take a very tight country lane bend at 30 or even 40. It would be more like 20 when trained properly. It's all about being "defensive" - correct road positioning for the best sightline, anticipation, making informed decisions, etc.
It's also about realising when you've done wrong and learning from it - no one is a perfect driver, no one is always right.
Add that lot together and you can enjoy driving quickly relatively safely.
Drive quickly without any of that and you WILL crash and hurt yourself and/or others.
A well trained, alert and enthusiastic driver is safer than a bored non trained one that hates driving IMO.
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ducks the huge penises being waved in the air
AWESOME
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You didn't read my post at all did you Matt, not all about you is it?
Good luck fella I hope you stay safe.
Ducking out as dont want to crap on the OP's, shall I by a universally unpopular, poorly reviewed and completely irrelevant car thread.
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No jools it's not but seeing as you directed a pretty scathing remark at me, I feel I was justified in replying. And yes I DID read your threads - otherwise why would I have replied?
Duh.
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>I had a tussle with an RS6 Avant when I had my Golf R32 - clearly the Audi was MUCH quicker in the straight line (this was on twisty B roads) but he just couldn't keep up on the bends due to his vast weight. He got really narked!<
Guess that must have been cos you were
>being "defensive" - correct road positioning for the best sightline, anticipation, making informed decisions, etc.<
Not racing - ohh noo sir officer...
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Jesus wept, some of you really haven't a clue do you?
Oh well, leaves more space for those who do.
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I think we've got your number pal
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Suf matt - invoke hattterslys law - when in a hole stop digging.
I have myself enjoyed fast driving - at a bet far faster than anything you have done ( powerful motorbikes and deserted roads)
However I would never get involved in "tussles" with other vehicles - that is simply stupid and shows how little skill you actually have at driving - no skilled safe fast driver would do that. Just wannabes.
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Matt, You said you'd been racing on the public road. I said that was pretty dumb and gave you a real example of why but you've convinced yourself what you do is somehow safe as a copper trained you once.
No one is infallable.
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Heather Bash - Member
I think we've got your number pal
54 46? Thats his number?Posted 1 year ago # -
I have myself enjoyed fast driving - at a bet far faster than anything you have done ( powerful motorbikes and deserted roads)
Well that statement should settle things.....
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That looks like a "Panda" car - so the driver is likely to have no extra training above his driving test. Class 1 drivers are taught to a much higher level.
TJ - so you've ridden "far faster than me" on a motorbike? And you are talking to me about safety? Oh dear. Here endeth your input. Thanks for the put down attempt though.
"Tussle" may be the wrong word - a "spirited few miles of driving" - both smiling, both having fun. If none of you have ever done that, you are talking complete and utter BS.
Unfortunately almost anyone that can enjoy a car properly is currently hiding from this thread.
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Driving any SUV fast down a bendy road is like trying to carve bendy singletrack on a bike with an 18" high BB and the saddle up at roadie height. You can't escape the centre of mass being horribly high! The Cayenne's quick in a straight line though and if you're driving it then you don't have to look at it...
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I knew you would notice it wasn't an area car! Here you go then a written off police Lambo, I expect those Italians can't train their coppers though.
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Yes Matt I was - because you get involved in "tussles" on the road and I don't. Its really simply - I use judgement when its safe to speed - you allow your emotions to get tangled up in it all which clouds your judgement.
classic wannbe boy racer.
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Oh do shut up TJ - classis wannabee boy racer with IAM and Cop training as well as no speeding points? Sorry mate, you aren't trying hard enough.
I couldn't give two hoots if you've been fast on a motorbike - how many points have you had and what additional training have you done eh? Emotions? What like the ones you display everyone time you spout BS you can't back up?
Jools - Italians cannot drive (apart from F1 cars) - full stop.
Kona - fast in Majorca? I drove about 4 miles twice on narrow mountain lanes very, very slowly indeed. Didn't get above third gear. The airport transfer was driven by Father in Law who knows the roads well. Come on, don't just make stuff up.
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TandemJeremy - Member
Suf matt - invoke hattterslys law - when in a hole stop digging.
Surfmatt - you clearly are showing that your machismo is tied up in your identity as a "fast driver"
That is the classic boy racer attitude involving your emotions with your driving and is what makes you unsafe. I wouldn't get in a car with you because of your attitude.
35 yrs on bikes here. two speeding fines in that time, no serious accidents apart from falling off a moped 35 yrs ago.
Oh - and any decent motorbike pisses all over your poxy cars for speed on the road. You wouldn't even be able to keep up with a touring bike
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Matt I love going fast and I've been lucky enough to have some quick cars, some quicker bikes and a bit of time at various tracks including a week at the ring. If I'm pressing on quickly and someone wants to race I always let them pass. I'm competitive by nature but the road isn't the place. It's most likely my personal experience that reinforces my attitude and I hope nothing similar comes your way.
Anyway Cayenne - Proper crapola...
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So then TJ, why do I happily drive around in an 85bhp Jimny as well as a quick BM then? Why have you got two more speeding tickets than me? And had one more crash than me?
You wouldn't get in a car with me because it would be very dangerous - I'd fall asleep at the wheel within a minute.
And get this:
you clearly are showing that your machismo is tied up in your identity as a "fast driver"
followed directly by:
Oh - and any decent motorbike pisses all over your poxy cars for speed on the road. You wouldn't even be able to keep up with a touring bike
:lol: I love the serial hypocrits on here.
So then Jools, if you'd love an RS6, then why?
Posted 1 year ago # -
Whats that wooshing noise Matt?
Posted 1 year ago # -
It's the sound of your hot air exiting your gob.
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Woosh - do you not get tired of hearing the point fly past?
Funny little boy you are.
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From someone so "famed" for having the debating skills of a primary school kid, I'd call that a wee bit rich.
Anyway, isn't it time you had your afternoon nap after a quick attempt at the Sun crossword?
Posted 1 year ago # -
DrRsWank (Brittas? Rob?) - those days are done my friend. I moved up to an astravan and never looked back. I can't, its the starch in these MASSIVE collars...
Cheers for the info on the M5 - I do like the look of the new ones but they seem a lot of money for what they are. I've heard decent things about RS4's so I think it'll be one of those or an RS6. But I might try a Cayenne just to humour myself.
TJ - I'm sorry -I used to be of the belief that a quick car will never match a quick bike. However, having had my @rse handed to me by a 335d when onboard my CBR6rr, I'd beg to differ. Proper quick cars will stay with proper quick bikes. Middling cars will stay with middling bikes and so on....
Anyway, this seems to have turned into a different discussion which I'm not really qualified to take part in. I have a driving license with 4 points and recently smashed my BMW into a thousand tiny pieces so I'm neither a good nor safe driver.....maybe I should avoid the Cayenne for everyones sake!
Thanks all
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I don't want an RS6 I said the OP could look at one.
I drive an old slow Honda and it's very liberating. I get my jollies on the bike now.
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"Tussle" may be the wrong word - a "spirited few miles of driving" - both smiling, both having fun. If none of you have ever done that, you are talking complete and utter BS.
Never raced on a public road, not BSing, just sensible. I know I'm not a very good driver so getting into a situation like that would be stupid for me, and unwise for even a trained Police, high class, IAM accredited driver. I doubt that they'd have supported you stance for racing on public roads. I'd be interested to hear otherwise though? Can't really imagine a situation where they'd condone that!
Gone over the speed limit? Yes, but that's a whole different argument!
So, I take it the road wasn't closed and it wasn't a private race event then SM? Irresponsible and potentially dangerous it is then.
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Have we made it to the back of the room yet with this post?
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pious
adj
1. having or expressing reverence for a god or gods; religious; devout
2. marked by reverence
3. marked by false reverence; sanctimoniousPosted 1 year ago # -
Have we made it to the back of the room yet with this post?
I think you're right. Seems to have degraded to insults.
Apologies if I made any false assumptions Mat, just airing my opinion based on what you've written. If you care to give me an example of when the Police would support your actions, then I'm more than happy* to change my opinion. I know very little about advanced driving (not being pious, just telling the truth) so a more experienced voice is welcomed.
* Maybe happy is the wrong word, no one likes being wrong!
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anyone mentioned nazis yet?
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