i recently bought a singular swift. although i love it, i want a bike i can tour on as well

any recomendations for an off roader tourer. something like a surly ogre or a Kona Sutra???

PS i looked at salsa fargo. very ££ and i think looks a bit weired

cheers

I’ve got a genesis fortitude adventure and it has pretty much replaced all my other bikes! Pannier rack mounts, mudguard eyelets, space for 5 bottle cages (yes 5′!) and super slick alfine 11 hub. I know some people have slated the hub but mine has been brilliant as has my mate’s. picked the bike up for £950

Can you not sort out a Swift to do that…?

Kinesis decade tripster?

http://www.kinesisbikes.co.uk/bikes/decade/tripster

Just tour on the Swift.

Aiden used his to good effect to come second on the Tour Divide, so i’m sure it’ll be fine.

the only racks i can find to fit it are…http://www.carradice.co.uk/index.php?page_id=category&category_id=40

over 100 quid for a rack!

not sure also, if the swift cn handle touring loads

over 100 quid for a rack!

not sure also, if the swift cn handle touring loads

Decent racks are ~£100.

Can’t see for a moment why a Swift couldn’t handle touring loads. Unless you’re a heavyweight, and planning on taking a ton of stuff with.

I’ve got a Swift and a Fargo. Put the looks to one side, I wasn’t all that keen when I first saw a Fargo. Doesn’t bother me in the slightest bit now, it’s a great ride, loaded or otherwise.

swift has done tour divide hasn’t it.

bikepacking is like touring without raincapes and sturmey archers 😉

Who side anything about racks?

Frame bag
http://www.alpkit.com/shop/cart.php?target=product&product_id=16786&category_id=276

Harness
http://wildcatgear.co.uk/products/handlebar-harness/

Seat pack
http://wildcatgear.co.uk/products/seat-packs/

I think the suggestion of frame bags are the way to go. I have tried riding offroad with a stuffsack on a pannier rack and they aren’t ideal. I am awaiting delivery of a frame bag from buggybag (£53 for mine), much cheaper than the wildcat ones or alpkit and turnaround is v quick. I’ll post a pic when it arrives.

Chew – which top tube bag is that?

Not sure, you’ll have to ask Mr Flatfish. It’s his bike not mine.

Chew- which model / build is that. Looks good, have you toured on it yet?

My 456, and it been everywhere

600 mile trip across Scotland last summer, and it’s commming with me for 1500 miles on the tour divide this summer

http://bearbonesbikepacking.co.uk/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=10&t=1026

Shand Stoater

Chew – which top tube bag is that?

I believe flatfish’s TT handbag is a Revelate one … I’m sure he’ll correct me if I’m wrong 😉

That Shand is lovely!

shand, stop it, my wallet is empty….

shand, stop it, my wallet is empty….

look out for a very nice Stoater coming up based on some 70’s Landrover colours :

Classic Landrover colours by shandcycles, on Flickr

it’s the middle (out of focus) one hanging up here :

Spring just around the corner by shandcycles, on Flickr

we’ll have more pics up in the next day or so.

bandit. 😉

bandit. 😉

who? me? 😳

😆

There’s some lovely small fillets on those stoaters. Nice greens too..

I’ve got a Kona Sutra – great bike. Use it for commuting and touring, both on and off road. I’ve done quite a few off road rides with it and it’s fine – ok it’snot a mountain bike and wouldn’t want to ride it down Cut Gate or at a trail centre – but it’s more than capable for the majority of trails you’d use when touring.

Not the fastest or lightest bike out there, but it rides like a dream and comes with all the racks straight out the box.
Touring in Scotland….

resting at the shed…

Thorn + Rohloff.

Heavyweight, ish [OK, so this is a little extreme]
Raven Tour

Linky

Been on all sorts of surfaces with Marathon Supreme tyres for road/graven and XRs for rough stuff. 9 Month tour and hardcore commuting has been done on this bike, no issues whatsoever.

Also suggest Rigida Andra Rims [6000+ miles, no wear]and XTR Brakes with Blue Swisstop Carts, though the ultra-hard compound is a bit **** in the wet.