Brodie Holeshot? Nice Ti frame and slack head angle too.
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One do-it-all hardtail?
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I'm hoping that the correct answer is - Blue Pig.
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Whats the best pre built Chameleon deal out there at the mo,
Would I get one for about £1000 anywhere?
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Yes, define 'all'? For me living down in t'South and riding a lot of tight woodland singletrack I'd want something lighter and steeper than if I was riding more open but steeper rockier trails up in t'North. And that's without changing the rider's ability or inclination.
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Everytime I see that Brodie Holeshot I require new pants
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I can't believe the Bfe hasn't been mentioned - it looks to be one of the most versatile frames out there at the moment.
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This simply isn't a wide enough choice yet. Can I add:
Charge Duster
Kenesis Decade Virsa (swap outs).. in to the mix?
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Chameleon's are often noted for being a bit harsh at the rear, as are Cove Stiffees but then both get ace reviews. Bear in mind thought that these reviews tend to be with more hardcore/play bike builds than XC ones.
Something for tough techy trails that you can throw around a bit with slacker head angle:
Orange Crush
Orange Subzero
Cove Stiffee
ChameleonSomething more XC for longer days out might be best with steel:
Cotic Soul
Cove Handjob
Orange P7
Genisis Altitude...Personally I wouldn't call this XC list a do it all bike, but who cares about categories like that.
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Rocky Mountain Blizzard.... it has rack mounts!!
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Yeah sorry, by do-it-all I should have said do-all-i-can-manage.
Sterling suggestions, every one (well, maybe except the Blizzard).
Am erring towards a Chameleon, but that could all change…Posted 1 year ago # -
...And before jokes start its about as heavy as the gate it lies against ,) was a great ride though..
Reminds me of my 30 seconds of passion in the field with IR_Baboon's Mum.
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Genesis Alpitude?
853, strong enough for fun and games in the woods but light enough for a decent epic in t'hills... (James did both while designing it)
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I think I'd go for a Soul. Which is weird as I've just sold mine but I decided to go for something that was less of an allrounder and got an Mmmbop
But as a balanced, capable, allround frame for pretty much everything bar serious jumping and DH I can't fault it.
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Ti456 or Ragley Ti.
I wish my Ti456 had ISCG mounts, other than that, it's brilliant
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depends on your definition of 'all'
my 'all' involves dirt jumps, bit of downhill, some riding singletrack, some trail centers etc. So a NS Bikes Surge was perfect. If your 'all' is more trails, less jumps, I expect a 456 or a ragley is closer to home
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Looking at the Chumba Racing's new 2011 HX1, looks quite nice, EBB for single speed etc.
Looks like progressive-bikes.co.uk will be stocking soon.
Hope that helps.Posted 1 year ago # -
I had a Pace 303, was better(ish) with a carbon post, but I had to admit defeat in the end, much as I loved its ride it was harsh as hell after a few hours. Each to their own though.
What about the Sanderson Blitz ?Posted 1 year ago # -
I've got a 456C and a Transition TransAM. Both are brilliant, 456C a bit longer, probably climbs quicker, TransAM feels better on descents. But both are built very differently, so it's difficult to really pin the differences down to the frame rather than other stuff. Both I'd highly recommend.
But, most people would say the same about a lot of frames, I don't think there are many bad options out there. Just buy whatever you think looks best, that's what I did. Sorted.
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I've had a chameleon for 4 years. no problems with my back, though it did start to hurt calf/ankle muscles on very long very rocky alpine descents. never had a problem in the UK despite some 8 hour long rides!
Not sure how a stiff frame would hurt your back unless you're sat down the whole time?? Sounds like a bike forum myth to me. If your backs hurting its more likely a wrong size frame.
Pretty much any hardtail will be fine though, so long as you don't go too lightweight/burly and pick something in the middle.
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messiah - Member
Everytime I see that Brodie Holeshot I require new pants
I too need new pants
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I made the same decision to cut down to one mountain bike about a year ago. My definition of 'do it all' was like yours - everything I've got the skill and balls for, which is largely xc and trailcentres. I ended up with a Cotic Soda (tart's Soul) and have been delighted with it. Great fun in the Lakes and Wales (if not as fast downwards as say a Ragley Ti), and very quick cross country. I tried (and owned) all sorts before coming to a Cotic, including a chameleon and an mmmbop, and would certainly recommend you give one a try.
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comfort will be the most important factor for sure & that is obviously very personal! test ride & test ride some more!
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Whyte 19 carbon HT = Big Grins for hours on end!
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Brodie Ti Holeshot, frames due soon ish £1099 for the frame.
Brodie Ti Holeshot by srbwilson, on FlickrPosted 1 year ago # -
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Ragley all the way for me, you have choice of steel alloy or Ti or 29er
Tyey are the do it all weapons of choice, or maybe look at the Cotics they have diffrent frames for diffrent fork lengthsPosted 1 year ago # -
Im of the same opinion as someone above.
My version of "do it all" is day rides, downhill, pumptrack, jumps, trail.
I get by just fine on my NS surge which would ruin a lot of people. It weighs 32lbs and i can sprint up climbs some people will walk. Long gradual climbs kill me though. But on fun stuff, it makes that grin, that bit wider.
If you're on lighter side of things, cotic soul, P7, duster etc.
If you're on the more aggressive side of things, blue pig, prince albert, BFe or even NS surge.
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Ragley all the way for me, you have choice of steel alloy or Ti or 29er
Tyey are the do it all weapons of choice,The TD-1 is a great 29er, but very specific - wouldn't call it a 'do-it-all weapon of choice' as it's rigid only?
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+1 for the Ti456...
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orange crush. good spec and good kit. not the lightest but a good do it all bike and a touch over £1k new so a bargain. fox forks and mavic rims. race face finishing kit. all a nice little package imo. personally liked the 2009 orange colour and its back for 2011.
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I still reckon the carbon 456 can take what this lot can.
But what about a Blue Pig X?
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How about a Pace 325
http://www.pacecycles.com/?page_id=171
I have a pace 305, lots of fun, does xc and all mountain well...
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I'll 2nd a Cove Stiffee. Did a 5 hour Peaks ride on Saturday with no adverse effects.
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I was looking at a sanderson soloist the other day and thinking that with an alfine 11, uppy/downy post, 4-5" fork of some sort would would make a reasonable "all rounder" or maybe a love/hate... I'm getting more into the idea of a robust EBB frame with hub gears and a sensible build...
I suppose it all comes down to what "all rounder" means to you, everyone will have different bias of course.
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