To be fair though, Orange would not be interested in supporting a frame which was purchased second hand.
I have not ridden a codine, but have been a long time Five owner having owned most of the recent incarnations. They are great bikes and largely bulletproof in terms of build quality. Not as heavy as many make out once you build them up with descent parts (factory builds tend to be poor heavy spec) my current Five is a fraction over 28lbs with some fairly hefty tyres. With a descent quality shock on it pedals fantastically and I can’t say I ever notice any real lack of suspension when braking. Which is the main complaint of the standard keyboard warrior