so it seems that the whole thing was nothing more than a nauseating, flag waving, patriot fest with the opportunity for big business to be even bigger on our £9 billion.

are we serious about a long term legacy for producing top quality athletes in the future ?

olympic legacy ? my arse

Calm down.

It’s only a suggestion that just one stadium could possibly be closing. Maybe.

This bit’s more amusing:

Don Valley stadium opened in 1991 for the World Student Games in Sheffield at a cost of £29m.

The Student Games debt is not due to be paid-off until 2024.

43 years to pay off £29m … that’s one heck of a student loan 😀

Did we really think the Olympics would give us a lasting legacy of improving the take up of sport in the country?, in my opinion it was merely a 2 week chance to splurge some money and raise the mood of the nation for a few weeks which it did do admiringly but the attractive girl has long left the party, the mood is heading back downhill fast and we’re now left contemplating making a move on the munter in the corner.

Perhaps it will increase the take up of sports where there is fancy stadiums or new facilities or in affluent areas with middle class parents with money to burn for equipment or facilities who are just as competitive as their little tarquins & tamara’s but for the vast majority of the nation, who live outwith the city’s, especially rural low wage areas we are still suffering from council cutbacks, poor equipment, closure of sporting clubs or the basic fact that there is no sporting facilities at all.

It was good while it lasted but as for a lasting legacy?, Pfft!.

olympic[b]World Student Games[/b] legacy ? what a joke

ftfy.

It will increase takeup of track cycling for sure, now that there are 25% more velodromes.

In the real world there will not be a Legacy – there never has post games.

Dont forget McD were providing the nutrition during the event, so perhaps fat kids will eat more fast food if we were to have a legacy.

It’s likey that Olypics made a net profit to the economy. The problem seems to be with the legacy of the 1991 World Student Games, or more likely Sheffield City Council’s financial management.

How can you judge the legacy after such a short time?

Makes for a good thread though – Blimey the Olympics are to blame for too many MAMILs on the roads one day, no impact on others. Best of all was a R5L presetner over the weekend asking had the athletes done enough to secure a legacy. WTF? That’s not their responsibility. They showed what can be done (even the non-Tamaras/Tarquins). It’s up to others if they want to take up the baton and follow their excellent example. Many will do so, a few will succeed but sadly most will hide behind tepid excuses and shift the blame to others. It was ever thus.

The Olympics provided the perfect legacy extolled by nearly all the medal winners – success is 90% hard work. The rest is mostly noise. That’s the main lesson that future winners will take away – oh and excuses are for others.

The greatest Olympic legacy so far is a ten-fold increase in moaning on and on and on about the Olympic legacy …

I am sure Jess Ennis is grateful for facilities in Sheffield and got her monies worth.
Always hard to spot full benefits. The new velodrome in Derby was under review after the May elections and a change in power. Decision was made during Olympics and BW’s TdF win and outcome is a new velodrome in 2014. Would we be getting a velodrome if not for Olympics? Hard to tell.

What Rio said up there^^

But one of the Olympic buildings probably will be dismantled, and then shipped to err Rio. Which is an interesting kind of Olympic legacy.

Some people really don’t like it if anyone has the temerity to criticize the olympics do they.

The greatest Olympic legacy so far is a ten-fold increase in moaning on and on and on about the Olympic legacy …

Indeed. The OP obviously has an axe to grind but had failed in spectacular style as the story in question has nothing at all to the Olympics.

Still, why let the facts get in the way of a good argument?

Some people really don’t like it if anyone has the temerity to criticize the olympics do they.

This is nothing to do with the Olympics though!

What do we mean / expect when we say Legacy ?

More fat people taking up sport ?
A mountain bike track for us to play on ?
More stadiums ?
Less unemployment ?
A change in attitude to fitness and recreation and sport ?

Judging by history and the inertia to change of any sort, society is very unlikley to do any of the above.

Like sex, it felt nice while it lasted, but now its over.

Still, why let the facts get in the way of a good argument?

Are you new here? 😉

But one of the Olympic buildings probably will be dismantled, and then shipped to err Rio

Great, can I have the velodrome please? 🙂

But it says olympic in the title! you don’t expect me to read the whole bloody thing do you 🙂

But one of the Olympic buildings probably will be dismantled, and then shipped to err Rio

This I know, the basketball court is the one. It was always designed to be a temporary structure and to be re-used in Rio. That in itself is a legacy, is it not? It’s good business sense and environmentally sound at the very least!

Are you new here?

Ahh yes. Silly me.

I’d have happily paid every penny for the Olympics just to see the look on his face at exactly 14 seconds into this….

[video]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EbzTyFTIOUk[/video]

That crowd reaction, for the first time in a long time, made me proud to be British 😆

Don’t forget the change in attitudes after the Paralympics.
A few less ignorant cretins in the shires is a good thing.

The problem seems to be with the legacy of the 1991 World Student Games, or more likely Sheffield City Council’s financial management.

Maybe governments shouldn’t be in the entertainment business.

Maybe governments shouldn’t be in the entertainment business.

Well… they could always do a swap. So the country could be run, during the Olympics at least, by Les Dennis. With a cabinet consisting of the cast of Hollyoaks. To give a sporting/entertainment/politics hybrid feel, all cabinet meetings to be carried out under the format of ITV’s fantastic new Saturday evening prime-time, Olympic inspired slot Splash!

Can’t help but notice you’ve already given your own idea one star out of five. Not really anything left for me to do, is there? 😉

What binners said 😀

The greatest Olympic legacy so far is a ten-fold increase in moaning on and on and on about the Olympic legacy …

+1

joao3v16 – Member
Calm down.

It’s only a suggestion that just one stadium could possibly be closing. Maybe.

This bit’s more amusing:

Don Valley stadium opened in 1991 for the World Student Games in Sheffield at a cost of £29m.

The Student Games debt is not due to be paid-off until 2024.

43 years to pay off £29m … that’s one heck of a student loan

Posted 3 hours ago # Report-Post

Basic maths error there .

super negativety yet again on this forum, is nearly every one a daily mail reader on here FFS?

Basic maths error there .

Also that the cost was £658 million, not £29million.

Sheffield is an anomoly, it has a lot of large sports venues after the student games, in a mid sized northern city, it’s always struggled to pay for them. Nothing to do with the Olympics or their legacy.

If anything it’s an example of how good the legacy might be, would Ennis have been as good as she is if she hadn’t had the benifit of the student games?

joao3v16 – Member
Calm down.

It’s only a suggestion that just one stadium could possibly be closing. Maybe.

This bit’s more amusing:

Don Valley stadium opened in 1991 for the World Student Games in Sheffield at a cost of £29m.
The Student Games debt is not due to be paid-off until 2024.

43 years to pay off £29m … that’s one heck of a student loan

Posted 3 hours ago # Report-Post
Basic maths error there .[/quote]

Also missed out quite in important line inbetween the 2 which were originally quoted.

The full cost of the Games was revealed in 2011 as £658m.

If anything it’s an example of how good the legacy might be, would Ennis have been as good as she is if she hadn’t had the benifit of the student games?

Wooooooah…! Very nearly talking sense there, TINAS, steady on old chap! 😉

Indeed. The OP obviously has an axe to grind but had failed in spectacular style as the story in question has nothing at all to the Olympics

i do have a perfectly legitimate axe to grind. we were promised a legacy of more people taking up sports and higher achievements in elite sports as a result. how is that possible when there is a mindset whereby the only large, elite level athletics stadium in the north of england could be under threat of closure.

if there were to be a legacy, we’d be talking about building more not dismantling the precious few that we have.

the only large, elite level athletics stadium in the north of eEngland

Erm….

http://gateshead2013.com/

i do have a perfectly legitimate axe to grind. we were promised a legacy of more people taking up sports and higher achievements in elite sports as a result. how is that possible when there is a mindset whereby the only large, elite level athletics stadium in the north of england could be[/u] under threat of closure.

if there were to be a legacy, we’d be talking about building more not dismantling the precious few that we have.

Could be. Only could be. Calm down dear.

And your OP still has nothing to do with the Olympic legacy, no matter how you dress it up. How many of our elite athletes trained aboard for a start? Maybe more can now train in London…? Just a thought.

Your axe is wearing away……

£658million for the world student games. Kinell.

joao3v16 – Member
Calm down.
It’s only a suggestion that just one stadium could possibly be closing. Maybe.
This bit’s more amusing:
Don Valley stadium opened in 1991 for the World Student Games in Sheffield at a cost of £29m.
The Student Games debt is not due to be paid-off until 2024.
43 years to pay off £29m … that’s one heck of a student loan

Education legacy on show right there 😉
24+9=?

glupton1976 – Member

£658million for the world student games. Kinell.

there’s every chance i’m wrong, but didn’t that include the cost of the tram system?

there’s every chance i’m wrong, but didn’t that include the cost of the tram system?

Yes, given the size of the supertram network, and difference between the two figures, my guess is that it does.

TBH, having previously worked for an organisation that funds these large infrastructure & regeneration projects, I take most of these figures reported in the press with a bucket load of salt.

how is that possible when there is a mindset whereby the only large, elite level athletics stadium in the north of england could be under threat of closure.

How many big athletics stadia are needed? How big do they need to be? what makes them elite?

Have you been to an athletics meeting – apart from the major champs, national champs and the Grand Prix events they hardly get a big crowd – so is there a need for athletics stadiums to be able to host big crowds? For such a small island we already host two Grand Prix events (last year Crystal Palace and Alexandra Stadium), many countries only host one, most don’t host at all (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IAAF_Diamond_League and http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IAAF_World_Challenge_Meetings). Sometimes hosted in Gateshead and I think Don Valley in the past.

For training and club meets only a small stadium is needed, so long as the running track is a good standard. Legacy doesn’t need to be about keeping costly venues open, it should be about good sports management and maintaining/increasing opportunities – so long as a replacement stadium is built for people in Sheffield to use there’s no problem.