Thinking of either anyone any thoughts on either or any one got either?

No experience to contribute but I like the look of both of them, hadn’t seen the Rag+ until today. Bookmarked in case anyone has more to offer… Not sure the AT is actually in the shops yet though.

The new Kinesis has one of those two bolt ‘clasp’ hangers that has caused loads of bother on the Vitus bikes and looks like an easy way to write off a frame.. but otherwise looks great.

In a shop of four people we have 100% RAG+ ownership. Two in stock 700×40 guise inc mine and two running 650bx2.2ish. One on Ikons and one on Thunder Burts. We took mine + Thunder burts for 110k of fife coastal path yesterday, it was ace.

All stock builds are sold out but we are custom building to a bit above stock level for a few quid more.

Really really fun bikes and the Apex 1 has been great.

I decided to buy rag+ just frame and gonna build up with force/rival 1×11, 2 sets of wheels 650b with some 2.0 tyres on then some 700c wheels with 32 gravel/road tyres
I’ll put some pics up here in next few week once built up

Anybody know of any deals on the RAG? It’s a great looking bike.

@pigyn – what’s the issue with the clasp hangars?