It appears they are planing to strike in September, who is next, we have had the BA crews, the BAA, lot, and many others,and they only caused slight disruptions.
Who will be next.
If it was the local council workers, possibly nobody would notice the difference, but the fire people, peoples homes wil burn down, and people will die.
I didn't think they were allowed to strike. I do remember this happening when I was a kid though. We had the 'green goddess' army fire engines filling in in our area.
School teachers I imagine.
Kids will go uneducated, procreate madly and end up on the dole.........hmmmm.
Jeez, is someone planning to stop their second jobs ?
That's nice of them.
Now the British Army, already overstretched and very often paid less than firemen will have to step in to provide cover and put themselves at enhanced risk by using clapped out kit because they're not trained to use the lovely shiny Fire Service gear.
I can't believe striking isn't illegal for the emergency services, it should be.
Yes, because its not like Trumpton have ever been on strike before is it? Just look at the devastation caused last time, and the time before that, oh, and the time before that... oh, maybe not after all eh!
we have had the BA crews, the BAA, lot, and many others,and they only caused slight disruptions.
Have BAA gone on strike ? BA crews certainly took limited strike action, but who are the "many others"
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If it was the local council workers, possibly nobody would notice the difference
Possibly because there aren't many council workers left ?
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Project - does a day ever pass when you don't take a swipe at public sector workers ?
I am?
Really?
hmmm. Why am I the last to know?
Why am I the last to know?
Because unlike project you don't read the Daily Mail ?
I'm in work, looking at the FBU notice board, there's nothing about us going on strike, where'd you see/hear this Project?
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Didn't they strike in 2001 or so?
BelfastAndy - Member
I'm in work, looking at the FBU notice board, there's nothing about us going on strike, where'd you see/hear this Project?
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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-11043768
London Town to start with and im sure there where other counties as well
They haven't announced strikes then, just a ballot on industrial that could result in strike action
Also
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-south-east-wales-10736478
Apologies for the Daily Mail type headline.
London firefighters to vote on industrial action
So it's just London. And they haven't decided yet.
Still, why let the facts stop you from having a swipe at public sector workers, eh project ?
They haven't announced strikes then, just a ballot on industrial that could result in strike action
Never let the facts get in the way of a half-arsed reactionary right wing rant.
just a ballot on industrial that could result in strike action
That's too long for project to wait.
If only we could privatise the fire service......
It was until the second world war i believe.
from the BBC article...
The union said it will ballot about 6,000 members in the capital on action short of a strike.
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Believe me after the last successful strike, you'll not find a lot of FF's willing to do it again!
First I heard about it as well.
That's nice of them.Now the British Army, already overstretched and
very oftenpaid less than firemen will have to step in to provide cover and put themselves at enhanced risk by using clapped out kit because they're not trained to use the lovely shiny Fire Service gear.I can't believe striking isn't illegal for the emergency services, it should be.
+1 and corrected
What are the proposals ? All I can find are 'longer days and shorter nights' whatever that means!
In fairness, I don't know the fire situation but within the ambulance service we have umpteen reasons to strike. All leave from august to october cancelled? Contractual pay rises not granted? Its all well and good saying the emergency services shouldn't be able to strike, but did you ever stop to wonder why? Yeah the fire service have a pretty good deal, but they wouldn't gamble that on a whim. there was a big kick off in south yorks recently about shift changes and everyone said "its so they can work two jobs". Could also be so they can look after their kids/care for relatives/ have some quality of life? no one joins the emergency services for the benefits, but imagine if all you IT workers lost all your perks over night. Would you stand for it?
So not striking at all then, sounds more of working to rule and only in London.
The Fire Service is going through big changes again mainly from the knock on from the last strike, no not the one in the 70s, the settled but not with out some 'compromise' on short of what the fool leader of the FBU promised them.
I'd say their members will be cautious this time after that mess.
meehaja
What's the reason for the leave situation and were people forced to cancel holidays?
@ernie_lynch
Possibly because there aren't many council workers left ?
Have you seen this:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-11034769
If a 12% efficiency increase in local government workers could result in 500,000 fewer jobs being needed, this means that there are approximately 4,000,000 people employed in local government, which is still quite a few I think.
To give this some context, there are approximately 1.5 million employees in the NHS.
backhander - MemberThat's nice of them.
Now the Armed Forces, already overstretched and
very oftenpaid less than firemen will have to step in to provide cover and put themselves at enhanced risk by using clapped out kit because they're not trained to use the lovely shiny Fire Service gear.I can't believe striking isn't illegal for the emergency services, it should be.
Corrected for accuracy. It was a Joint effort - not just the Army - when the idle, change-resistant inefficient firemen last went out, put lives at risk and had to be covered by more capable people who got on with the job in hand with surprisingly effective results.
The police aren't allowed to strike - how the back-sliding firemen get away with it is beyond me.
this means that there are approximately 4,000,000 people employed in local government, which is still quite a few I think.
who do you think writes all the 'out to lunch' and 'closing early' signs?
- management consultancy Knox D'Arcy.
Junior staff in local authorities were, on average, productive only 32% of the time during working hours
To put it in context the private sector only manages 44%, but thats still 37% better.
- Dave Prentis
It is a red herring to compare private and public sector productivity
How can you measure the productivity of a care worker and compare it with a car worker on a production line?
School teachers I imagine.Kids will go uneducated, procreate madly and end up on the dole.........hmmmm.
cant see teacher striking just yet, we can stomach a pay freeze. Start messing with pensions and the dogs of war would be unleashed though.
I work in the private sector, however my friend is a parmedic in london and she gets screwed hard. She works 6/7-6 and apart from once I've never know her to finish before 7, she gets a minimal wage, around £20k a year for living in london (she is classed as a studnet paramedic) and only gets the minimum holiday they can get away with.
Some of the shift patterns are horrible too. 6-6 nights thursday to monday. Try having a social life outside of that.
Ian your friend is having her course paid for is earning more than £20k that I promise and gets 8 weeks holidays a year. Oh and she's not a Paramedic but that's pedantic.
The shift patterns for 12 hour workers give you a good social life. You get plenty of time off from working so many hours, if they don't like the unsocial hours then your in the wrong job.
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