perhaps she was using this particular case which would gain media attention as an opportunity to get public attention for the HSE.
knowing that most people wouldn't give two toots about tort law and PLI.
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No bumping (...in the bumper cars???)
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Bumping in dodge'ems (note: not 'bumper cars') has been banned everywhere I know for the last 25 years at least.
Oh that's nice.....blame Thatcher won't you.
Maybe these health and safety issues were introduced not because Maggie, gawd bless her, wanted to stop the kiddies fun, but because she was concerned about their well-being. Have you thought of that ?
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Have you thought of that ?
I can honestly say, hand on heart; no Ernie, I jolly well have not.
blame Thatcher won't you
Always. It's obligatory.
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I wrote this ages ago on a similar thread when I was doing my NEBOSH
I can also detect that the lecturer is spouting fundamental untruths as my degree gave me a better base knowledge of the law (he has not done a degree). What concerns me is this disinformation is being disseminated to 20 odd other people who do not question whether he is right or wrong and apply this disinformation in their own workplaces, its self perpetuating. Hence (in my particular example) you get jobsworths 'banning' conkers in schools etc etc etc
IMO 'H&S practitioners' should be legally trained first and foremost. Then reasonable actions can be applied to any legislation. Until then H&S practitioners have no business in 'banning' anything.
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Jackson - conkers were never banned - it was a spoof from a headteacher and all the papers fell for it
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So basically short of telling the counter staff (who presumably have no say in the restrictions) that it's all cobblers, there's not much point in arguing. That correct?
correct ,possibly. However it is not the STW way so argue till you are banned or flounce ....your choice.Posted 9 months ago # -
TJ-shhhhhh people like to get all emotive and hysterical about health and safety regulations and guidance, don't go spoiling it with logic!
next you'll be explaining the principles of suitable and sufficient assessment of risks and the use of reasonably practicable control measures and that will really upset the daily mail ranting brigade.
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Jackson - conkers were never banned - it was a spoof from a headteacher and all the papers fell for it
Yes I know, but that misses my point.
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No jackson - the point is that most of these health and safety gone mad stories are myths. they never happened.
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remember seeing some documentary about the fair not so long ago, the no bumping is to stop small children getting hurt..and also to stop there expensive cars getting trashed
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My point is that although some are myths, others aren't (Henman Hill etc). Those that are employed in the application of law and legislation should be legally trained.
Myths or not, are only propagated by a fundamental misunderstanding of the law.
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H&S Nazis.
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perhaps she was using this particular case which would gain media attention as an opportunity to get public attention for the HSE.
I think that's absolutely right - unfortunately she got pwned by the Wimbleguy and it involved her spreading more H&S-related FUD.Posted 9 months ago # -
No jackson - the point is that most of these health and safety gone mad stories are myths. they never happened.
No jackson, the point is now that the point is no longer your point and a more important point is being used to both highlight and rubbish your original point, everyone must now focus on the new and more important point regardless of whether there is any relevance to the OP's point or not.
Do you get mypointdrift?Posted 9 months ago # -
Just done a quick risk assessment and all these points are dangerous... we'll have someones eye out!
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