Decided against panniers on the grounds I might use a saddle bag more often because a rack/pannier combo has to be more hassle to put on an off.

Still need to order the bagman QR support, thought about a hack for about 10 mins then gave up.

Trouble is while 24L sounds a lot I’m basically filling it with my fleece. How much stuff to people generally take on 3 day trips, hosteling or BBing?

Also been thinking about a bar-bag for food, camera etc. But they all look a bit, well man bag?

Best I’ve found is these which might also double up as a day saddlebag;

Anyone heard of them before? 6-Way-Bag

Bad idea?