soon regeneration of the 4 underground stations on the railway as well as Lime street, surface station.
Damnit, we won't rest until they bring back the Overhead Railway 
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Nasty, nasty Tories
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Just think yourself bloody lucky I wasn't running the country at the time....
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wow the righties (tm) getting all defensive of the golden days
the BBC are sensationalising nothing high level discussions at the time considered the 'managed decline' of merseyside, thatcher herself couldn't understand why the police were so hated (only 8 black coppers on the whole of merseyside !, 30 - 50% unemployment )
it just confirms what many people think about thatchers government and is justifiably relevant considering the uks current situationPosted 4 months ago # -
kimbers - Member
wow the righties (tm) getting all defensive of the golden daysKimbers - not sure if tm is meant to be me, in which case the adjective is a false assumption.
My point was on sloppy reporting or in this case the assumption that this was the policy of one party - here the Tories. What the archives show is that there was debate WITHIN the Tory government between Howe and Hesletine over the merits or otherwise of investments in Merseyside. My objection is simply that it is a big jump from that to the argument/headlines that the Tories as a whole supported a managed decline for L'pool. Clearly not true.
It would be like saying that New Labour were anti or pro-Europe - when the party had a healthy debate about it.
But it DOES suit the BBC agenda to try to infer that this was a Tory party policy as it does to concentrate on this rather, say, on Hestletine's criticism of the police. So whatever my political persuasion (which is irrelevant), there is a simple objective statement here about what is reported and how.
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There's the conspiracy again.
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teamhurtmore
Toxteth Riots, Howe Proposed Managed Decline For Cityis the headline, in what way is that biased or misleading ?
unless you are seeing something I cannot ?
even the torygrah led with the same story
the BBC can be very blatant in their bias in some stories, but I don't think they are being disingenuous here.more laughable is that the times led with 'thatcher and the expenses claim for a ladder ' or some such lighthearted example of Tory inocuousness.
now I call that a (Murdoch / Tory) conspiracyPosted 4 months ago # -
Kimbers - has the title changed on the BBC? That's a serious question, not a wind up. I was sure it said something different.
I also read the article in DT and reckon that they may have done the same thing on-line. Was this after Howe gave his side of the story on R4? I read both articles on-line early this morning.
If not, then you are right and I am completely wrong!! The bias and prejudice were all mine (by the looks of things!) as I read something into the BBC that actually wasn't there. Maybe Zokes OP clouded my perspective.
Thanks for pointing out my mistake - hopefully the last of the year!!
Leaves - muttering, "must read more carefully..."
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I don't see how the proposal was all that unreasonable, to be honest. Isn't there a guy in the US who is leading the way with respect to certain cities there? I mean cities rise and they fade. That's history. It would not have been so radical to suggest that Liverpool had had its day.
At least I don't think so.
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Liverpool got it easy, try being Scottish during the Wicked witch's reign....
Seems like a bit of a non-story, Tories in thinking about pooing on Northern monkeys...REALLY?
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BBC REPORTS theres 80,000 pissed scots due in edinburgh tonight, somebody better tell them thatcher hasnt died, its just new years eve a day early.
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