Skyline-GTR – Member
The only thing I liked about the 456 was that it was made out of decent grade CrMo steel at a good price.
That’s why I have one.
If this carbon version is made to a price point, it’s hardly likely to be as good as race proven carbon frames.
So why would you want one if there’s no performance advantage over the steel frame?
That makes absolutely no sense and to me shows a complete lack of understanding of carbon fibre construction and engineering as well as possibly a hint of jealousy 😉
The steel 456 is cheap because there are compromises compared to a £400+ steel frame – it is a bit heavier, a bit less compliant, a bit less well finished, bit less optimised etc etc – but because of the price none of that matters to the owners who love them and the way it rides.
The carbon version is about 1kg lighter and lighter than other long travel steel frames the steel 456 was pitted up against despite being cheaper (£400 with headset and bars for the carbon 456 at the moment versus over £400 for something like a Cotic Soul). The carbon version is also better optimised with improved torsional stiffness in the front end and BB area but more compliance where needed. They have had a lot of time to evaluate what improvements were needed over the original 456 – regardless of material and they have also used the experience of the manufacturers in Taiwan who make much more expensive frames for other companies. Costs for carbon are coming down and you have to ask if the other companies are over charging. Yes £1200 carbon frames will have a lot more refinements and better paint jobs, cable guides etc but do you need them to get a great ride? Nope. In their defence, the expensive carbon bike manufacturers have to recoup the costs of working with the manufacturers on developing the manufacturing understanding that On One are enjoying.
£400 is expensive compared to a steel 456 but compared to a lot of other frames out there it is an absolute bargain, especially if you get the mixer bundle with headset and bars thrown in.