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My kid came home from the child minder with severe facial sunburn - not happy
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Binners, your concern for my family's welfare is truly touching. I never knew such things were possible.....
Thanks for reminding me that I'm off to the Alps tomorrow. All this excitement/anger almost made me forget about it...
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Tootall I expect that the risk of skin cancer is significantly higher up on that high horse of yours.
Given that my wife has had two skin cancers removed over the years - largely caused by a lack of sun protection as a child, I'm fairly aware of this topic. We would rather our daughter didn't suffer the same. You see high horse, I see high standards. Standards shared by several other parents it seems.
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We would rather our daughter didn't suffer the same. You see high horse, I see high standards. Standards shared by several other parents it seems.
Spot on. I commend the OP for his composure. I think I would be landing on the childminder in the manner of a hungry and f:cked off dragon landing on a fat pony.
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**applauds ** @ TooTall
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landing on the childminder in the manner of a hungry and f:cked off dragon landing on a fat pony
Quote of the day?Posted 11 months ago # -
Well that's me trumped. I can't argue with that. Seems that sunburn is more serious than I believed. Luckily my wife slathers my kids at the merest hint of sunshine.
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who provides the sunceam? you or the CM?
reputable brand or a corner shop "special"
how old is it?
does your kid happily wear sunhats?
lots of things to consider before you accuse the person you have happily entrusted your kids with for ages
I would have a constructive chat, buy some new sunscreen and make sure junior loved his hats
if you report it for a single occurence make sure you own up the day that you fail to keep junior protected
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make sure junior loved his hats
If you figure out how to do this please let me know! The only way we'd get a hat to stay on our little one's head for more than 60 seconds is with a staple gun and maybe some industrial-strength duck tape.
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If you figure out how to do this please let me know! The only way we'd get a hat to stay on our little one's head for more than 60 seconds is with a staple gun and maybe some industrial-strength duck tape.
It is hard but can be done - one of our little girls will only wear ONE sun hat and no others (apart from my gardening hat), she wears it indoors, she wears it back to front like a rapper, she loves it. No idea how, but she never complains about it being on. She is often to be seen in nothing but a nappy, her sun hat and her wellies (another favourite).Posted 11 months ago # -
I still see no mention of a hat being provided by the OP. Parental negligence.
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When we were looking for a childminder we went to a house that had no toys visible, but did have a samurai sword on the wall. We decided to look elsewhere.
I dunno, you somehow develop a sixth sense about which ones are good or bad.
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Edukator - it's buried in one of my posts above.
For the hard of reading.
"When my wife collected him from the child minder, it was very apparent that he was burnt. The childminder informed my wife that she applied the suncream "every 10 minutes" (which I find very hard to believe). We have also given her a sun hat for him which we would expect him to wear when outside."
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We have also given her a sun hat for him which we would expect him to wear when outside."
my point is will he wear it giving the CM a hat and expecting her to keep it on a kid who is determined not to wear it is an abdication of responsibility
if you don't like the CM change
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OK, a hat was provided, sorry for not reading more thoroughly. I still find the desire for revenge distasteful.
The problem with sunburn is that by the time you notice it's too late. The fact the child's nose is not burned suggests to me that sun cream was used but perhaps not applied in sufficient quantities on the cheeks or it was rubbed off.
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The problem with sunburn is that by the time you notice it's too late.
The problem *with people that don't think* is that sunburn will happen if you leave a child in the sun with insufficient protection. There is absolutely no excuse for letting a child get like that - it is the middle of summer FFS! Fair enough if it had been an early April jaunt and they got caught out, but the carer should be acutely aware of the consequences at this time of year!Posted 11 months ago # -
but the carer should be acutely aware of the consequences at this time of year!
This isn't going to help, but in all honesty, number one carer is the parent. If it were me I would be thinking of finding a new carer, BUT, I don't think I would have allowed my 14 month old to be taken to the beach all day in the first place. If there is any blaming to be done I think it has to be shared around a bit.
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I'm wondering about the beach too. When its mental hot we either go to the beach pre 10am or post 5pm, or better still up into the shady woods.
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He wears his hat happily sometimes, at other times he's not so keen. As a professional carer, I would have at least hoped that she would recognise that when he is not wearing his hat, additional measures are needed, such as - oh, I dunno... SUN CREAM maybe or find some shade??
Also, my desire for revenge, whilst still simmering, has abated considerably since this morning, as is hopefully reflected in my subsequent posts.
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This isn't going to help, but in all honesty, number one carer is the parent. If it were me I would be thinking of finding a new carer, BUT, I don't think I would have allowed my 14 month old to be taken to the beach all day in the first place. If there is any blaming to be done I think it has to be shared around a bit.
I suppose the parents would have trusted the carers to know what they were doing? I think I would have assumed so.Posted 11 months ago # -
I suppose the parents would have trusted the carers to know what they were doing? I think I would have assumed so.
You've got little kids I think?
Would you take them to the beach in the middle of the day?
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As a carer management of any weather conditions should be second nature.
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I suppose the parents would have trusted the carers to know what they were doing? I think I would have assumed so.
You've got little kids I think?Would you take them to the beach in the middle of the day?
Yes I have and of course I would - but I wouldn't just leave them sitting there in direct sunlight without enough protection - I would ensure they were well covered (sun cream, loose-fitting clothes, sun hat) and make sure there was plenty of shade around.
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This isn't going to help, but in all honesty, number one carer is the parent. If it were me I would be thinking of finding a new carer, BUT, I don't think I would have allowed my 14 month old to be taken to the beach all day in the first place. If there is any blaming to be done I think it has to be shared around a bit.
So at what point is the (Professional, qualified, Registered & Paid) carer responsible.
She is being PAID to be responsible whilst the parents are not present. As the parents provided suncream & a hat what else would you like them to do? FFS
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what else would you like them to do?
Not allowed a day trip to the beach maybe?
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Poor little lad! That looks sore, though I'm sure he'll be enjoying the extra love and attention post burn. Healing vibes little dude.
I'm thinking that with fair skin, even half an hour on the beach without protection from the sun would be too much.
I wouldn't be looking for revenge, but I would be looking for a different chlid minder, and I'd make it very clear why to the child carer in question.
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It sounds like she didn't offer an apology. If so I'd be worried because I'd expect her to feel responsible for what happened even if she wasn't entirely to blame (i.e she wasn't negligent in applying the cream, it just got wiped off etc.)
Tootall, can they actually tell if malignancy is caused by childhood exposure, or is it just that exposure is much more dangerous at that age? Have to admit, our girl has been outside (though covered up) on sunny days and we've not used suncream.
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Not allowed a day trip to the beach maybe?
so restricting your children's activities to negate the carer of any responsibility then?
Negligance is negligance. Would you have a different opinion if the this happened in the carer's back garden then? Or should the parent's also not let them go outside?
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As a carer management of any weather conditions should be second nature.
It should - but as we've established, it's not.
I'd rather be slightly cautious in the face fo a fairly obvious risk than indignant afterwards with a burnt child.
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Would you have a different opinion if the this happened in the carer's back garden then? Or should the parent's also not let them go outside?
It wasn't in the carers back yard though was it?
Have you ever been to a beach? There isn't much shade and more light is reflected off the sea and sand than in your average back garden. That's why so many people end up getting burned there. This isn't some brand new phenomenon that no one has ever heard of before!
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I would have hoped that if a child minder was taking kids to the beach they'd take adequate precautions, hats, creams, shirts, wind breaks and shelters. Because there isn't much shade and more light is reflected off the sea and sand than in your average back garden. That's why so many people end up getting burned there
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Have you ever been to a beach?
Yes I grew up by the coast and all my family is still there. I visit the beach alot with my kids. Your right, it isn't a new phenomenon. That's why when I go I take provisions to ensure my children are safe. The same any responsible parent or carer should do.You still haven't answered if your opinion would change if this happened in her back garden. People can still get burnt by the sun away from the beach you know or is this a phenomenon you haven't come across yet...
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Mmm,the line from 3rd Rock From The Sun rings true..."I want to have babies like the humans..and pay complete strangers to look after them"...
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The buck stops where?
I had had sunburn to blisters as a child and I turned out OK. Able to spend mucho time in the sun without cream nowadays without fear of burning.Posted 11 months ago # -
Blame aside for a sec.
Thats very bad Sunburn and you kid needs to see a doctor.
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