not sure if anyones interested in this but i took the plunge and bought one of those cheap, direct form china carbon frames (hong-fu and the like).
To be honest i wasn’t expecting much from it considering the price but after riding it yesterday for the first time it’s initially proved me wrong and blew me away with it’s speed and the grip of the 29er. Downsides appear to be a slightly short top tube (which suits me as i have a short body), and it is a stiff frame.

Piccie below for anyone interested but at the moment, based on 1 ride, i cant fault it for the price. time will tell i guess…..

They the carbon Rovals? Looks good.

How cheap is cheap?

“the grip of a 29er” …..It’s been hot & sunny for the last few days & you’ve got Nics on it…..12″ wheels would feel grippy…….. 8)

nice, like a raven.

Looks pretty good.

But what’s going on with the rotors? Is it just the angle or is the rear larger?

I was wondering that too!

Reminds me of the Kingdom 29er. Does look short though, but that could also be an effect of the large wheels as my 29er scandal looks shorter than my 456 in the same size.

Looks like one of these for £260

yeah fair point emac65, i did think that was probazbly something to do with it althoughwhere i ride it isnt dry at all.

njee yep thy’re the carbon rovals. got a good deal on them.

chakaping, cheap is >£200

Looks smart! Less than £200 though 😯

and yes the rear rotor is massive, 203mm at the moment. I had a problem with having an IS brake and the frame being post mount so that was the temporory fix, although i’m loving the stopping power!

Massive rotor on skinny seatstay 😯

a white seatpost clamp and chainguide would finish it off really nicely 🙂

Blimey I know someone whos got one just like that, and the same garage door.

They are great frames I had a salsa and 2 on-one carbon 29ers broke all 3 so got one of these £230 china 20″ and it’s been spot on for 5 months now and it rides just the same as the others I had,and a new headset is only $15 posted from x-goods.com

Looks nicer than the On-One…

Guessing they come from the same place?

I would go easy on the back brake with a 203 on there. But then again, carbon is better than crappy welded titanium 😉

How do you fit the headset to one of these? Quite interested, but I’m not expecting the old hammer and block of wood is going to help me here 🙂

Guessing they come from the same place?

There are LOADS of carbon factories. Loads and loads. I deal with six currently across our various models and components, and that’s a small selection.

Carbon is really pretty simple to get into. Oven. Mold. Plasticbags. Cutting table. Done.

Doing it right is harder. But, well…

Ahhhh bigh, did you get your ankle looked at after?

Looks VERY focus raven to me, knowing the Chinese they may well have used it as a blueprint..they are the kings of copy after all

I like it. What’s the weight?

Doing it right is harder. But, well…

Mine as a rigid SS

it’s ace

They are all just a result of high end bike sales flat lining and the big guns needing something to rejuvenate sales as oppose to just upgrades!

God i hate 29ers!

Must not look at these threads.

squealer, where did you actually buy it – as in website, email? How did you pay and how long was delivery?

Bluddy ell Mick – was yours less than 200 quid as well…?!

God i hate 29ers!

Try not clicking on any 29er threads then. 😉

Bluddy ell Mick – was yours less than 200 quid as well…?!

Had it a while now, I think it was about £230 delivered including headset

Doing it right is harder. But, well…

I waited ages for a 16″ On-one carbon 29er but in the end gave up!

It looks ace – I bet it’s a hoot to ride, and the best sweetner is the price – well done

Looks great & all in for less than 250? Where did you get it from?

please, let us know when that seatstay/dropout area breaks.

more grapes! 😀 haha. seriously carbon does worry me though, my mate wrecked his carbon zaskar just by rubbing his heels too much on the stays.. they must be cared for.

Looks great and all in for less than 250? Where did you get it from?

This http://flyxii.com/products.asp is it, it’s the FLX-FR-211

This http://flyxii.com/products.asp is it, it’s the FLX-FR-211

Impressive, they even have 650b frames.

who do you suppose will be making all those 2013 650b frames for many of the small to mid sized bike companies? 😉

I’m looking forward to some disc’d cx frames soon as I can’t quite justify a dirty disco.

Just put carbon 29er on eBay and there is loads,I have had 5 now for mates & they take 2 ish weeks to turn up had to pay customs on 3 but it’s only £21 so still very cheap.

Been looking at one of those myself. Looks good.

650B, a response to the mass rush by people to buy 29ers by the mid sized bike companies..

650B, a response to the [strike] mass rush by[/strike] short in the arse people desperate to buy a 29er [strike]by the mid sized bike companies..[/strike] just like their normal sized mates