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  • Muslims offended again
  • Ferris-Beuller
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    Having being brought up to utilise the philosophy ‘live and let live’. I sometimes wonder who these people are who represent the so called religion of peace.

    Why is it Muslims are always offended by something? Why is it never Hindus, Buddhists (D’uh!!), Sikhs. Its always the same record

    I’m sorry if this is sounding like a nonsensical rant, but i have just read this and sometimes i really wonder whether its just me, but i get tired of reading and hearing about how they are constantly offended. No matter where they go in the world trouble doesnt seem to be far behind.

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    peterfile
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    Easily offended people are easily offended.

    It’s not just Muslims.

    Christians are not exactly known for being thick skinned either.

    Neither is my old neighbour and I don’t think he believes in a god at all.

    nickjb
    Free Member

    Are you offended by their taking offence?

    binners
    Full Member

    Muslim groups have reportedly previously called for a jihad on dogs.

    If I’d have known that before, I’d have converted to Islam. I’ve always thought they were bang on about dogs being filthy creatures that have no place in a civilised society, but if they’re going to get shut of them all, then ALLAH AKHBAAAAAAAR!!!!! 😀

    wwaswas
    Full Member

    Why is it never Hindus, Buddhists (D’uh!!), Sikhs

    Do you read the news beyond the stuff about Muslims?

    There’s continuous violence throughout India and the far East as a result of various religious groups taking offence at some perceived slight from another one.

    As an example;

    Buddhist monks attack Muslims;

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-22356306

    Yesterday – violence between Sikhs and Muslims.

    http://www.firstpost.com/politics/curfew-relaxed-in-saharanpur-violence-was-pre-planned-say-sikh-victims-1637679.html

    and it goes on. Do a google search for the name of any religion followed by ‘offence’ or ‘violence’ and it’s there.

    Some just gets reported more in certain types of British newspapers than others.

    Also, don;t forget it’s not *all* members of a religious faith who take offence or attack others – the newspapers just find it easier to portray it that way…

    Junkyard
    Free Member

    Different cultures have different values
    you can either decide to learn what these are and respect them or moan about how easily offended they are when you are insensitive to their culture
    the choice is yours.

    Many Muslims refuse to have direct contact with dogs, which are considered by some to be “unclean” in Islamic culture. Some overseas Muslim groups have reportedly previously called for a jihad on dogs.
    Possibly making matters worse was the fact that Jock, who was supposed to lead out the Malaysian team, sat down and refused to move as soon as his coat was put on, meaning he had to be carried by the team representative.
    Mohamad Sabu, the deputy president of the opposition Pan-Malaysian Islamic Party said: “Malaysia and all Islamic countries deserve and apology from the organiser.
    “This is just so disrespectful to Malaysia and Muslims – especially as it happened during Ramadan. Muslims are not allowed to touch dogs, so the organiser should have been more aware and sensitive on this issue.
    “It is hoped this incident can teach other Western countries to be more respectful in the future.”

    if they made all our females athletes cover up and walk behind the men we might get a bit moany about this as well.

    ohnohesback
    Free Member

    Given the amount of bodily flesh displayed by non-muslims at this time of the year, and much of it distasteful to non-muslims as well, I think the majority of muslims are remarkably forebearing.

    jam-bo
    Full Member

    extreme or controversial points of view make better headlines than ‘meh, so what’

    eightyeight
    Free Member

    you can either decide to learn what these are and respect them or moan about how easily offended they are when you are insensitive to their culture

    They’re not the only two option though are they? The other option is to learn about their views, become fully educated about their culture and then continue to hold it in complete disdain.

    That’s my approach.

    neilwheel
    Free Member

    Was any muslim actually forced to touch any of the dogs?

    Junkyard
    Free Member

    I forgot how many tree hugger do gooders there were on here who would opt for that one

    Forgive my error 😉

    Junkyard
    Free Member

    Was any muslim actually forced to touch any of the dogs?

    no offence but there is a link and i quoted a fair amount of it .

    Possibly making matters worse was the fact that Jock, who was supposed to lead out the Malaysian team, sat down and refused to move as soon as his coat was put on, meaning he had to be carried by the team representative.

    chakaping
    Free Member

    Everyone gets offended, it’s just that the Telegraph and the Daily Mail only tell you about the Muslims in a bid to control your tiny little mind.

    eightyeight
    Free Member

    I forgot how many tree hugger do gooders there were on here who would opt for that one

    Bit confused as to the link between environmental concern and cowardly culture relativism?

    neilwheel
    Free Member

    no offence but there is a link and i quoted a fair amount of it .

    No problem, I did have a look at the article, as the link does not work, but missed that part.

    I would still like to assume that the team representative was informed before the ceremony that the dog would be involved and that that was acceptable, rather than just being given a dog to carry.

    timc
    Free Member

    Ferris-Beuller – Member
    Its always the same record

    If you keep listening to the same record it will always sound the same 🙂

    whatnobeer
    Free Member

    Looks to me like a couple of Malaysian politicians trying (and winning at) to get their names in the press and get a bit of a boost to their profile. That and the Telegraph being able to make middle England and some folk STW froth about how ridiculous the complaints are.

    jambalaya
    Free Member

    I think it was little shortsighted of the organizers not to think of this, its pretty well known that Muslims think dogs are unclean. You can go round an Arab city and there will be hundreds of skanky cats but no dogs.

    johnners
    Free Member

    Given the amount of bodily flesh displayed by non-muslims at this time of the year, and much of it distasteful to non-muslims as well, I think the majority of muslims are remarkably forebearing.

    “Vast majority of people pretty much in favour of live-and-let-live” is the headline the DM’s probably least likely to ever print.

    meaning he had to be carried by the team representative

    It was insensitive to expect a muslim team rep to carry a dog, but to be fair he or she didn’t actually have to, did they?

    bails
    Full Member

    All I can say is it’s a good job that white people never get ‘offended’ by black people and drag them to their deaths behind a pickup truck. Or get so offended by brown people that they murder old men and blow up mosques. Pesky white people, always causing problems, why do they think they’re so special?

    eightyeight
    Free Member

    I think it was little shortsighted of the organizers not to think of this, its pretty well known that Muslims think dogs are unclean

    Yep, they should have changed the whole ceremony on that basis. Unfortunately, as a FSM high priest I find fireworks and walking and [insert anything else] offensive, so they really might struggle to organise anything palatable.

    Cougar
    Full Member

    its pretty well known that Muslims think dogs are unclean.

    Plenty of people think plenty of things, doesn’t make them true.

    Charlie Brooker’s column on ‘offence’ jumps to mind here. It’s a fine line between “respecting” and “pandering.” How much respect is being paid to the traditions and culture of Scotland by calling one of their mascots “unclean”?

    In the interests of balance, can I be offended on behalf of the Scottish?

    neilwheel
    Free Member

    The easy solution would have been for a dog handler to be used where appropriate.

    lemonysam
    Free Member

    Te easy solution would have been for a dog handler to be used where appropriate.

    I’m pretty sure that’s exactly what happened isn’t it? The “team representatives” weren’t members of the teams, they were people – presumably local volunteers – who walked in front of the flag bearer, in uniform rather than team kit.

    edit:

    I have no idea if this woman is a muslim or not.

    jambalaya
    Free Member

    What I was saying is that whilst there cn be dogs in the ceremony, and I loved them, the Malayasians should have been asked if they wished to have a dog ahead of their team.

    blurty
    Full Member

    The ‘Team Representative’ was not Malaysian, she was Scottish (and presumably not Muslim, or not worried by dogs). No Malaysian team member was asked to touch the dog.

    When in Rome…….

    neilwheel
    Free Member

    Lemonysam – When i first looked i thought the same, looks more like a local style of dress too. In which case this is a complete load of BS.
    If it was the team rep, they would be from the team country not the host country?

    thestabiliser
    Free Member

    All Muslims are terrierists!

    Do I win a prize?

    neilwheel
    Free Member

    So this is BS from either the Malaysian muppets or the Telegraph muppets then.

    Junkyard
    Free Member

    I do not find dogs offensive and i do not find the absence of dogs offensive. Given this it is not difficult to find a solution here where no one is offended

    Plenty of people think plenty of things, doesn’t make them true

    It does not mean i should not be sensitive to what they think even if I/you disagree.
    EDIT 1:

    When in Rome….. and islamic country cover your wife up and dont let her drive

    It really depends on what they do in Rome tbh

    EDIT 2: if it was carried by a non muslim Scots person then that is a rather important point that should have been made clear. I read it as a Malaysian carried the dog.

    RustySpanner
    Full Member

    Problem solved:

    khani
    Free Member

    not a all Muslims think dogs are dirty, plenty own dogs as pets and plenty of Muslim places use working dogs,
    is it that it wouldn’t make a nice story (or thread title) for the swivel eyed loons to latch onto to justify their swivellyeyedness…

    neilwheel
    Free Member

    Junkyard – If the story is true, It seems that the Malaysian politicians have assumed the team rep was a muslim.

    khani
    Free Member

    All Muslims are terrierists!

    [giggles] 🙂
    bravo!

    Junkyard
    Free Member

    I agree it does appear that way [ see my edit] and I would probably have cared less had I realised that bit.

    feenster
    Free Member

    An explanation/history of the human race:

    Person/country/culture/religion 1: You’re stupid
    Person/country/culture/religion 2: No, you’re stupid

    khani
    Free Member

    It seems that the Malaysian politicians have assumed the team rep was a muslim.

    Ahh… Politicians seeking publicity shocker.
    I’m outraged!!!

    Dobbo
    Full Member

    I think it’s funny they get offended, it’s just a bit much when they start chopping peoples heads off.

    binners
    Full Member

    Has anyone asked the dog what he thinks?

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