so your solution to the problem of sugar turning tomato soups into "jam" is to go for the one that contains honey instead?

😀 GrahamS – tomatoe, carrots, etc, are packed with sugar. Any soups made with such ingredients will by definition, be sweet. I have no problem with that. What I do have a problem with, is the sheer quantity of sugar which Heinz shovels into their tinned tomato soup, which in my opinion, turns it into a sickly sweet syrup which obliterates any real tomato flavour. In comparison, the addition of very small quantity of honey by NCG, has a negligible effect. Although I would probably prefer they didn't bother – I tend to avoid tomato soups precisely because manufactures have a tendency of finding creative ways of making them sweeter, eg, adding orange juice, sweet potato etc. Gazpacho I like (specially on a hot sweltering day) as the the soup's ingredients can actually be tasted – rather than half a packet of soup. I also have a problem with Heinz canned tomato soup being bright orange in colour – a completely unnatural appearance imo. And incidentally in the same vein, I disapprove of some manufacturers adding sugar to their peas to make them sweeter – I have never sprinkled sugar on my 'petit pois' FFS. Of course at the end of the day, it's all just down to taste………….and culture and refinement 😉

Generally, 1/2ish a teaspoon of sugar gets added to anything I make with tomatoes in, seems to bring out the tomatoey flavour.

ernie: I wasn't holding up Heinz Cream of Tomato soup as something good. The whole point of this thread was that it is a guilty pleasure. I'm just defending my point that practically all packaged soups contain sugar. NCG, as I've shown, are not immune from this.

the sheer quantity of sugar which Heinz shovels into their tinned tomato soup

Heinz Cream of Tomato (82p for 400g tin).
Nutrion per 100g:

Fat 3.0g
Sat Fat 0.2g
Sugar 4.9g
Salt 0.7g

NCG Tomato and Chunky Veg (£1.96 for 600g)
Fat. 1.5g
Sat Fat. 0.6g
Sugar. 3.4g
Salt. 0.5g

there really isn't that huge a gulf between the obviously not-so-healthy dirty pleasure of the Heinz, compared with the healthy luxury of your chosen NCG.

(and there is always the Heinz Weight Watchers option if you're that arsed about half a teaspoon of sugar)

NCG Tomato and Chunky Veg (£1.96 for 600g)

Tesco are selling 2 for £3.00 at the moment ……..so get yourself down to Tesco for some sugar and salt reduced fresh tomato soup which tastes of tomatoes – at bargain prices.

Sugar and fat reduced: 66p a can

Fat 0.5g
Sat Fat Trace
Sugar 2.8g
Salt 0.8g

Mmmmm……..tinned Heinz Weight Watchers tomato soup…..sounds absolutely delicious.

Do they do a tinned Weight Watchers Macaroni Cheese as well ?

It's probably not as tasty as Classic tomato soup, but that's the price you pay for avoiding those "shovels" of sugar. Incidentally the FSA considers less than 5g sugar per 100g to be Low/Green on their traffic light system.

Do they do a tinned Weight Watchers Macaroni Cheese as well ?

Yuk!

that's the price you pay for avoiding those "shovels" of sugar

And having that delicious calorie-free artificial sweetener Acesulfame K instead !

Heinz Weight Watchers Tomato Soup ingredients :

Tomatoes (59%), Water, Modified Cornflour, Sugar, Salt, Dried Skimmed Milk, Vegetable Oil, Whey Protein, Sweetener – Acesulfame Potassium, Spice Extracts, Herb Extract

NCG Tomato & Chunky Veg Soup ingredients :

Tomatoes (31%) water, potatoes, broccoli (5%), sweetcorn (5%), carrots (4%), onions, leeks, cream, swede, celery, wheat flour, honey, olive oil, salt, oak-smoked garlic, parsley, smoked paprika, cracked black pepper. Vegetables 35%

All those yummy ingredients which Heinz cram into their tins………I really don't know why I bother with NCG 😐

jesus you are boring

The only tinned soup I like is Heinz cream of tomato and, as someone pointed out above, it has to be eaten with platstic bread. Preferably a dairylea sandwich made with plastic bread. Mmmmm.
It IS sweet, and it IS crap, but it's proper comfort food.

I note that the NCG soup mentioned above actually contained 3 times as much saturated fat as the radioactive soup of choice. (Granted it is a tiny amount, but still! I am point scoring here! 😉 )

When I make my own cream of tomato soup I don't add any sugar, just a pinch of salt. I reckon the cream somehow brings out the sweetness. Well, it works for me, anyway.
I prefer to make onion or mushroom soup at home.

I love sugar – i put it on my porridge most mornings. And i allways put salt on my chips or roast potatoes. Am i going to die? 🙁

yes lyons, yes you are.

I can't stand soup. Why would anyone take perfectly good ingredients and mush them up so you could drink them through a straw? Why not have some proper food?

I've heard that tomato soup is made from the still warm blood of slaughtered vegans. So no thanks. 😉

All those yummy ingredients which Heinz cram into their tins………I really don't know why I bother with NCG

It's not really that shocking that plain, cheap and inexpensive Cream of Tomato contains less variety of vegetables than the more sophisticated, aspirational, middle-class Vegetable soup.

It would be more surprising if cream of tomato contained broccoli and carrots, no?

(Anyone else finding it amusing to watch ernie "ClassWarrior" lynch extolling the virtues of French cuisine, fine cheeses and posh soup? 😀 )

I've heard that tomato soup is made from the still warm blood of slaughtered vegans

mmmm, that must be why it's so good

Anyone else finding it amusing to watch ernie "ClassWarrior" lynch extolling the virtues of French cuisine, fine cheeses and posh soup?

Anyone who questions my class warrior credentials on that basis, betrays a serious lack of understanding. I can assure you that the average French, Italian, Spanish, and Greek, poorly educated peasant, knows far more about fine cuisine than the average Waitrose shopper. Furthermore, one of the reasons why good food is particularly highly valued by the French masses is precisely because 200 years ago they staged a revolution – a revolution which amongst other things, established that good food shouldn't simply be the exclusive right of a privileged few. Presumably GrahamS, you believe that the proletariat should be content with eating crap food. And I dare say, you probably also believe that they should be happy living on crap wages, reading crap newspapers, being ill-informed, and powerless …….. I however, beg to differ.

Getting back to your chemical laden canned soup………you have completely missed the point. I have nothing at all against sugar – I have stacks of the stuff every day – I just don't think that soup should resemble runny jam. So replacing some of the added sugar with artificial sweetener to maintain the 'sweetness' level, would have no effect on me other than possibly making it taste even fouler.

Ahhh we're straying into your home territory now ernie 😀

Presumably GrahamS, you believe that the proletariat should be content with eating crap food.

"Let them eat cack" 😀

No I don't believe that. You presume too much.

However I do believe that if you went to Easterhouse or Possilpark and lectured the lumpenproletariat that they should stop eating crap chemical-laden canned soup and spend their limited funds on fine imported cheese and expensive soup, so they could aspire to be poorly-educated French peasants, then they would put your head on a spike outside Farmfoods.

Getting back to your chemical laden canned soup……..

Changing tact again, I thought the charge was added sugar?

What chemicals are you objecting to?:
Tomatoes (84%), Water, Vegetable Oil, Sugar, Modified Cornflour, Salt, Dried Skimmed Milk, Milk Proteins, Cream, Spice Extracts, Herb Extract, Citric Acid

Or are you now re-aiming at the WeightWatchers one, which shock horror, contains some sweetener – hardly "chemical laden" by any measure.

Anyone who questions my class warrior credentials on that basis, betrays a serious lack of understanding.

toys – pram – crash – there they go

Well done Graham

LOL ! @ "Let them eat cack" ………nice one – like it 😀

"However I do believe that if you went to Easterhouse or Possilpark …"

Yes of course I am fully aware that the "lumpenproletariat" very often eat crap food – there's no disputing that. What puzzles me is why assumed that I would champion crap food. The "lumpenproletariat" also often read crap newspapers, are often ill-informed, and far too often tolerate being economically shafted…….do you also assume that I should be happy to read crap newspapers, be ill-informed, and not mind being economically shafted ?

Sorry to disappoint you mate, but a dairylea & salad cream sandwich dunked in tomato syrup, isn't my idea of 'delicious' food.

I feel flattered that you make reference to my dairylea sandwich dunkers.
🙂

If it makes you feel any better about my diet I will be making roast butternut squash and thyme risotto for tea today… (and I won't be adding sugar to it.)

I will be making roast butternut squash and thyme risotto for tea

Sounds like a right pretentious Guardian-reader, Waitrose-shopper, meal to me………… 😕

You couldn't be more wrong…

Ernie, why are you turning this into such a trial? It's a "guilty" pleasure, you know? People understand fully that Tomato soup really shouldn't be bright orange, and that it's probably a bit sweet, but you know it's not the worst thing in the world to eat…

Waitrose-shopper

What's wrong with that?

…why are you turning this into such a trial?

Not at all. GrahamS enjoys challenging me, and I enjoy taking the bait, so when he challenged my innocuous comment about Heinz tomato soup being cack, things just started kicking…….

Not the worst thing in the world to eat ? Not sure about that…….although I'll grant you that Graham's other favourite food macaroni cheese, must mount a serious challenge.

do you also assume that I should be happy to read crap newspapers, be ill-informed, and not mind being economically shafted ?

Course not, I just find the image of you storming the House of Lords with a rolled up Socialist Worker in one hand and a Prosciutto & Caciocavallo Podolico tart in the other, quite amusing.

Down with the bourgeoisie. 😀

GrahamS enjoys challenging me, and I enjoy taking the bait,

Guilty 😆

Right, that's it, just ban everyone for being insulting, flaming, trolling and rude.

I've heard that tomato soup is made from the still warm blood of slaughtered vegans.

Ha ha, not from this vegan's blood: didn't you know that we're so anaemic and poorly-fed that our blood is like water and useless for soup.

Well after reading all this bo**ox, Heinz tomato soup with a ham sarny & mustard dipped in is still my fave snack.
Ta ta.

…..our blood is like water and useless for soup.

Sounds perfect for Heinz canned soup to me.

……obviously you would need to add bucketfuls of sugar to it.

Ernie do you drink pop/beer put sugar in you tea coffee or eat chocolate or biscuits?

Kuco – I have stacks of sugar in my very many daily mugs of coffee. None in tea though.

I'm with mr Gruntfuttock. I'm perfecly aware of what HTS is made and it's still my favourite.

I make my own borscht, onion soup, vegetable broff etc with veg grown on my allotment, and they are fine, but HTS is still the one true soup for me.

There's some good snobbery on here about hts! I love making my own soup, but when you're feeling a bit under the weather nothing beats some hts and white sliced.

piemann – surely you'll be eating pie with your hts?

This thread makes me 😆