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  • Mike Ashley's refusal to attend parliament
  • geoffj
    Full Member

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-derbyshire-35864037

    I detest the guy, but I can’t help admiring him for refusing to be publicly ridiculed by some half wit committee, usually chaired by Margaret Hodge or the like.

    thegreatape
    Free Member

    I think I agree although I possibly could be swayed if good contrary arguments are forthcoming.

    spacemonkey
    Full Member

    The bloke is an odious little ****. Looking forward to seeing his side drop into the Championship. Hopefully he’ll then **** off thus allowing someone of not only greater capability, but also of a higher moral standing, come in and get them back in the PL.

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    chewkw
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    What has he done?

    Has he broken the law?

    Surely if he has broken the law he should be prosecuted? Ya? 😯

    If he has not broken the law he can tell the MPs to fly kites. 😆

    RamseyNeil
    Free Member

    Yes I think he’s doing the right thing by telling MPs where to go . Spacemonkey do football fans really care about the morality of the owner ? IMO if Hitler was the manager and won something for Newcastle he’d be hailed as the new Messaiah .

    scaredypants
    Full Member

    I think he has a point (about them visiting the premises instead of just grandstanding for parliament tv) – and that he’s probably an odious little (whatever that was)

    He doesn’t rank as low on my list as a stereotypical MP, so I’m with him on this

    Stoner
    Free Member

    dislike the man also.

    And to the extent he is answerable to shareholders I’ve not been best impressed with his witholding information from them.

    However he is not answerable to a bunch of whiny headline grabbing MPs on a committee, so they can go swivel and I hope he continues to give them the cold shoulder.

    jekkyl
    Full Member

    I disagree, I think he should be held accountable and he should justify the actions of his companies obnoxious working practices. The fact that he is refusing to attend speaks volumes.

    thegreatape
    Free Member

    Perhaps the government could legislate to the benefit of the workers rather just than summon him to a meeting so they can frown at him or whatever it is they do.

    Superficial
    Free Member

    He doesn’t rank as low on my list as a stereotypical MP

    This is a man who is widely accepted to be running a modern-day sweatshop, exploiting vulnerable low paid workers, showing blatant nepotism and generally being an unpleasant toad. And still better than the average MP. Sounds about bloody right.

    chewkw
    Free Member

    jekkyl – Member
    I disagree, I think he should be held accountable and he should justify the actions of his companies obnoxious working practices. The fact that he is refusing to attend speaks volumes.

    What has he actually done? Really …

    Superficial – Member

    He doesn’t rank as low on my list as a stereotypical MP

    This is a man who is widely accepted to be running a modern-day sweatshop, exploiting vulnerable low paid workers, showing blatant nepotism and generally being an unpleasant toad. And still better than the average MP. Sounds about bloody right. [/quote]

    You need sweatshop!

    What? You want everyone to be paid £20 per hr? 😮

    RamseyNeil
    Free Member

    I disagree, I think he should be held accountable and he should justify the actions of his companies obnoxious working practices. The fact that he is refusing to attend speaks volumes.

    Has he actually broken any laws ?
    If he has then he should be in court , not in front of a Parliamentry committee .

    ninfan
    Free Member

    Lets see how big he is when the Sarjeant at Arms turns up carrying a f-off big Mace to make him attend…

    edit:

    he should be in court , not in front of a Parliamentry committee

    IIRC, technically Parliament is a court.

    mitsumonkey
    Free Member

    He is running his company in line with employment law, if the MP’s aren’t in favour with this then they should change the laws (they can do that can’t they? Lol). Starting with the zero hours contracts!

    chewkw
    Free Member

    ninfan – Member
    Lets see how big he is when the Sarjeant at Arms turns up carrying a f-off big Mace to make him attend…

    That should be fun but how does that work as I have no clue of the tradition here … 😆

    Does the Sarjeant at Arms wack the fellow with the mace? I think s/he should … more blood etc 😆

    jekkyl
    Full Member

    What has he actually done? Really …

    Well… the T-shirts go all faded and bobbly after just a couple of washes and the cheap soft trackie bottoms allow lots of very fat people to leave the house in comfort. Heads should roll goddamit.

    chewkw
    Free Member

    jekkyl – Member

    What has he actually done? Really …

    Well… the T-shirts go all faded and bobbly after just a couple of washes and the cheap soft trackie bottoms allow lots of fat people to leave the house in comfort. Heads should roll goddamit. [/quote]

    😆 Think of the people needing work in foreign countries … thinkkkk of the poorrrr … without him they would be eating mud … 😆

    ninfan – Member
    IIRC, technically Parliament is a court.

    Really! Damn! I should be a member of Parliament so I can sentence ZM to death by drowning … I mean waterboarding … 😈

    aracer
    Free Member

    So all you lot don’t care for democracy? Presumably you have some better suggestion?

    jekkyl
    Full Member

    He should be made to only dress in the clothes his stores sell as punishment.

    jamj1974
    Full Member

    It would probably help if when these cross examinations are conducted that politicians didn’t try and act like the big swinging dick/internet hard man/playground bully. It doesn’t lend itself to improving the credibility/integrity of the process.

    scotroutes
    Full Member

    A better suggestion has already been made. Up there ^

    ChrisL
    Full Member

    thegreatape – Member
    Perhaps the government could legislate to the benefit of the workers rather just than summon him to a meeting so they can frown at him or whatever it is they do.

    Select committees aren’t part of the government, they’re supposed to be a way for parliament to scrutinise what the government gets up to. One thing they seem to do is to kick up a fuss about issues in order to encourage to get the government to do something about them. So getting Mike Ashley in for a public grilling is a way for MPs to put pressure on the government to do something about workers’ rights.

    sadexpunk
    Full Member

    This is a man who is widely accepted to be running a modern-day sweatshop, exploiting vulnerable low paid workers, showing blatant nepotism and generally being an unpleasant toad.

    so still more trustworthy than cameron/osbourne et al.

    ernie_lynch
    Free Member

    thegreatape – Member

    Perhaps the government could legislate to the benefit of the workers rather just than summon him to a meeting so they can frown at him or whatever it is they do.

    He hasn’t been summoned by the government. The Commons Business Committee is independent of the government. In fact any politician who is in the government isn’t allowed to sit on the Commons Business Committee.

    martinhutch
    Full Member

    Showboating and grandstanding dressed up as ‘seeking answers’. I’m not surprised that someone like Ashley has declined that particular opportunity. Parliament now has to work out whether the chance to browbeat him is worth exposing the impotence of various possbily-defunct legal powers.

    scotroutes
    Full Member

    Surely there’s nothing to stop someone on the Commons Business Committee (or any other MP) from starting/supporting a Private Members Bill if they are so concerned about workers rights?

    edhornby
    Full Member

    USC bankrupcy order? imposed a company owned by him into insolvency but carried on trading, and almost instantaneously bought it back off the receiver just so that he could close a warehouse and ditch a load of jobs – horrible man

    thegreatape
    Free Member

    Chris L, Ernie – much obliged for the clarification.

    mikewsmith
    Free Member

    Contemptuous fat [swear filter meltdown]
    Dancing on the line of the law potentially, perhaps the commons want to know why, how and what. Then look at proposals to fix the loop holes he is exploiting.
    As for prosecution I guess his legal team are a lot better paid and everything he is doing will just about stand up enough to get away with it.

    Of course it is always hard for STW to decide of they had Ashley, The Government or the Man the most….

    mefty
    Free Member

    If he is found in contempt of parliament that he can be imprisoned for the term of the parliament according to wiki.

    He does however make a valid point about showboating, select committees can and do excellent work if they focus on forensic questioning rather than just haranguing witnesses. They shouldn’t be a modern version of the Stocks.

    mikewsmith
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    He does however make a valid point about showboating,

    He might do but it’s only to deflect from the fact he is in a lot shit. Perhaps a select committee can get enough answers to form better employment laws, or if he refuses to play ball make sure he looks like the arse that he is. In some ways the select committee is an opportunity to speak and answer if he doesn’t put his point across that’s his problem.

    Northwind
    Full Member

    He is a shit. But, frankly, he’s just a symptom. It should be those responsible for making the laws he exploits that are being pulled up.

    superleggero
    Free Member

    ChrisL – Select committees aren’t part of the government, they’re supposed to be a way for parliament to scrutinise what the government gets up to. One thing they seem to do is to kick up a fuss about issues in order to encourage to get the government to do something about them. So getting Mike Ashley in for a public grilling is a way for MPs to put pressure on the government to do something about workers’ rights.’

    +1 Select Committees aren’t the Government, they’re made up of members from a cross section of parties. Select Committees are often critical of Government policy and can bring about change by highglighting problems with current Government policy. To do this they need to gather evidence – written and verbal. It is a shame that people’s low esteem of MPs (often justifiable) completely trashes the perception of all the work that goes on in Parliament.

    Re MA there is a prevailing view that he may consider himself to be above the democratic system. Maybe he could use it as an opportunity to tell everyone how great his company really is…

    mefty
    Free Member

    He might do but it’s only to deflect from the fact he is in a lot shit.

    I doubt it.

    mikewsmith
    Free Member

    It should be those responsible for making the laws he exploits that are being pulled up.

    So do you ask the people who can’t make laws or those that work out how to exploit them how it works?

    Northwind
    Full Member

    He can certainly give very useful insight. Though of course he may not be minded to do so, since he’s profited so much from exploiting the laws as they stand- would you expect a thief to give the police good advice?

    But if he does attend, it won’t be in the form of simply giving evidence, will it? He’ll be under attack, and very publically and newsworthily.

    konabunny
    Free Member

    IIRC, technically Parliament is a court

    The House of Lords was a court; and I suppose you could say parliament is a court if the h of l is; but j don’t know whether that’s all changed now we have the Supreme Court; and I’m not going to look it up

    paulosoxo
    Free Member

    We shouldn’t be penalising people who are operating within the law, especially on the grounds of not liking them or what they do.

    If the law is wrong, change the law.

    mikewsmith
    Free Member

    At no point is this a penalty, it’s an invitation to discuss stuff. If you were going to change the law wouldn’t you want to consult? If the law changes were going to impact you wouldn’t you like to give your input.

    If your snaking through loop holes and operating on technicalities I could see why you would be wary.

    rone
    Full Member

    Any upstanding business man who had got the moral high ground would clearly want to waltz in there and give them a solid show boating performance of the highest common decency.

    The fact that he doesn’t means he prefers being beyond scrutiny in the race to the bottom, and basically saying hands off my workhouse.

    I’ve no idea why these sorts of places can’t just run as decent models of business.

    Actuslly I do … they can’t because they sell cheap shit to us.

    Just up the road from me. On the upside Shirebrook has got a booming little micro economy not seen since the pit was in full swing.

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