Yes agree with the silver (if not ti...) seatposts. And get some proper handlebars for the FS, not some you've pinched off an Apollo kids bike!
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Going to disagree about polished silver alloy posts- unless they've been anodised a slightly darker tint they dont look any more of a match for a Ti stem than black.
BTW is that a THM Clavicula chainset on the Crosser?, dont get me wrong I like nice stuff too, but isn't that a bit wasted on a CX bike, I'd be putting that on a roadbike where I'd notice it more!Posted 2 years ago # -
So it is, excellent choice of chainset! Agree though, of all the bikes to put it on, that seems the most daft!
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I wouldnt thank you for any of them. Or more accurately they would be sold to get something better.
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Why do you have all those bikes?
HT frame looks V nice!
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Solarider-
How have you got the Red front mech on the full suspension bike to run with a top pull cable?
Have you got one of those 'funny wheel' things at the bottom of the seat tube, so the cable goes down then back up?If not, can you get Red mechs in top pull? Where did you get it from if you did, as i haven't come across any?
Cheers
Josh...Posted 2 years ago # -
Yes it's a Clavicula, and yes, it's bonkers on a CX bike. It's a compact, and was originally on my road bike as you suggest. But (and this will really surprise njee20 given his low gearing fixation!) when I recently changed to Super Record on the road I wanted to go back to standard sized chainrings as I sometimes felt that I was running out of gears. I tried to sell it for a giveaway price, but no takers, so it went on the CX bike instead where the compact gears make more sense. Still happy to sell if there are any takers!
The red front mech is a standard bottom pull version. They do indeed only make bottom pull. There is a cable return integrated in the Maverick Monolink suspension system. It is designed for a road mech mounted on what they call a D Link (the sticky-uppy bit in the pictures) or a multi pull e front mech. The CX bike does have one of those return 'funny wheel' things to return the top tube routed cable.
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Dont really blame you then, On a road bike I'd rather have a lightish chainset with decent gears than the lightest with compact gears.
Still hurts to think of that getting ground up covered in mud and grit though!.Posted 2 years ago # -
Me like! Even the FS would get some abuse around here...a fab collection.
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How much would you sell the Clavicula for then? Email in profile...
I wouldn't say I have a fixation with low gearing, I just found your statement about not running out of gears around Leith Hill a bit odd considering you've gone for the lowest possible ratios on XX! Maybe I'm thinking differently as I've run a double for 4 years, and my 28/42 with 11-36 is the lowest combination I've had in that time!
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so now you've got 7 of them are you going to stop?
Good on you, although some of them not my cup of tea,
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I'm guessing a "giveaway price" for a Clavicula may not be what most people would think of as cheap for a chainset - otherwise I might be interested!
I'm still a little confused by the reason for getting rid though - do you really find yourself running out of gears with 50/11 (that being almost 36mph at 100rpm, and higher than 53/12)? I'd have though that not having 11-speed chainrings when getting SR was a more valid reason.
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Actually £350 posted including brand new Tune chainrings, Tune bolts and bottom bracket. They are absolutely immaculate. Cost over £850 complete new. So, yes, I guess expensive by many standards, but good value compared to the new price.
Despite the 11 tooth casette on XX, I am not a fan of 11 tooth at the back. Never seems to run as nicely as a 12. I found I never used to use the bigger rear cogs with a compact front, so that's the reason. Actually, 10 speed and 11 speed rings are completely compatible. The inner width of the teeth are identical. The chain is thinner, but this is because of the outer plates, not the spacing between the inner plates.
I guess the ratios debate is purely about personal preference. Being in the fortunate position of having a bike for every occasion, I use my mountain bikes when riding steep up and downy stuff, hence my choice of gears. I'll take the CX or SS 29er if its less demanding.
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About the pricing I expected - I might just about convince myself to get one for the MTB at that price, but certainly can't justify one for the roadie which is built to a budget (and already too light for the UCI)!
Mountain bike for steep climbs on tarmac? With that stable I'd have thought there was room for 2 road bikes - one with standard gearing, one with compact
Not that I'm about to get a new chainset or even rings if and when I go to 11, but I understood the spacing between rings to be a little narrower so the chain didn't drop between them.
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aracer. Don't believe the hype. Do believe a pair of calibrated measuring calipers! The spacing between the rings is identical. Strip off the rings and the 10 and 11 speed chainsets are identical. The chainrings are also identical in dimensions, although the new coating is much improved over the old one. The rear cogs are are slightly thinner and the outer dimensions of the chain are also thinner to fit in between tighter spaced cogs at the back. But the inner dimensions of the chain are identical between the 2. Should you go 11 speed, you really don't need to change the chainset, chainrings or front mech other than for the sake of completeness.
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Somebody's either got calipers that measure differently to yours, or a different chainset, solarider - I was going on information from weight weenies http://weightweenies.starbike.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=55109&start=5
As I said though, I'll carry on using the 10-speed chainset and rings I've got if I do upgrade - it's not like it's cheap just to get the Ergos, RD, cassette and chain!
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I challenge any chain to flinch at a 0.1mm difference in chainrings width. Now that 11 speed has been out for a year or so, there is enough strong evidence out there that 10 speed chainsets work absolutely fine with 11 speed. Depends whether you have an older 10 speed chainset or a newer one whether you can just bolt on 11 sped chainrings if you wanted to go that way. Mind you, have you seen the price of Campagnolo chainrings these days?!!
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I agree the 0.1mm difference is completely insignificant - arguably the 0.6mm difference in spacing could make a difference though. I've got the very latest 10-speed chainset, since I got my Campag a few months before the first rumours about 11
- if I really felt the need would wait for TA to come out with an 11-speed ring though rather than pay Campag prices.p.s. apologies for rather hijacking the thread!
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That's OK. Have a look at what 0.6mm looks like in reality. Even that isn't enough for a chain to fall between. I guess using everything 11 speed together is optimal, but on a budget 10 speed works just fine. Mind you, the only justifiable reason for changing is the comfort of the new shaped ergos. They are a revelation compared to the older ones, and unfortunately I understand that the new Centraur (which is 10 speed in the new shape) isn't backwards compatible, but I might be wrong.
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I don't think anything has changed with 10-speed, so the Centaur is compatible. If it wasn't for the lever shape change I don't think I'd even consider it, but that's just another excuse, and if I do upgrade it will be to 11. Remember I have compact and use it - would be nice to have the extra cog so I could get 11-25 without losing the 16 (currently using 12-25 as with current fitness I need the 25, but really miss the 11 for the downs) That or 11-23 with an 18 for when I'm fitter, given I do a lot of riding around the 17 and 19 cogs.
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solarider
Beautiful collection of bikes - really admire your dedication to one brand; part of the joy of cycling for me is to constantly try and experience different manufacturer's visions of the perfect bike so I'm constantly changing and - unlike yourself - I don't hold onto bikes. Don't think people realise (and its a great trick of ti) that you've obviously built this collection over many years. I'm interested in your Clavicula's for my current road bike (ti of course!) and would really appreciate an email (via my profile) as I don't know how to contact you? Thanks Ben
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Ben YGM
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lovely bikes Solarider! Interested in running thumbies with Sram 10speed too! How do the Sram ones work? I thought the Sram road stuff had a slight difference in cable pull? MTB stuff is 1:1 .Was told the road stuff more like 1.2:1?
Thanx MaxPosted 2 years ago # -
XX has a 1:1 cable pull, exactly the same as SRAM Red and Force. You are right that the other MTB groupsets have different cable pull, but XX is not just 'bodge it and hope' compatible, it is 100% totally compatible. The thumbies work fantastically well. Highly recommended. You can use any of the bar end mounted levers. The TT500 (alloy), TT900 (carbon - the ones I am running a bit more bling), or the super expensive return to centre versions. I would advise against these as their natural return position is actually a little awkward to reach and interferes with your hand position when mounted on the Pauls mounts. Much cheaper and lighter than XX, and something a bit different. And at the risk of repeating what has been a controversial statement to some, in the event of bent mech or accident on the trail you can always switch them to friction mode. I gave both bikes a good thrashing off road last weekend and it all worked beautifully. Have been bed-ridden since and very frustrated! You can also run the SRAM road double tap under bar shifters. Check out the Fudge cycles website. They have a number of compatible options at a number of price points. Really good prices, really helpful (ask for Andrew) and they have/had good stock from the first drop delivery. It's where I got mine.
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You mentioned 'dometic tension' further up the thread.
Out of interest how do you justify all these bikes to your other half?I'm struggling with 3 bikes!
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