I watch this while Mrs K was out last night. I knew nothing about it and assumed it’d be a man sized US explosion based action movie that she wouldn’t want to watch.

Its so well filmed in an almost documentary/real life fashion, and so emotional at the end… Such was the content it forced me to stay up late and research the story that the film was based on.

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1091191/

Worth a watch anyway. Sniff.

I agree, it is rather compelling to watch and very well done for what it is.

It is basically just war porn though, isn’t it? It’s a very long gunfight in some woods, which goes on for ages. The baddies win (apologies for the spoiler) but one of the goodies escapes to write a book, which was made into a film.

🙂

I enjoyed the film and found the most interesting bit was the situation with the local villagers at the end. The film overplayed that to include some action that didn’t really happen, but the true story still adds some perspective to the situation with the Taliban and how at least some of the local population view their actions.

Its so well filmed in an almost documentary/real life fashion

From wiki:

Also in dispute is the number of Taliban fighters involved in the ambush. In Luttrell’s original after-action report, he stated that he and his teammates were attacked by 20-35 insurgents, while his book places the number at over 200.[53] The screenplay describes “A solid line of at least fifty Taliban in firing positions on top of the hill above them.”[53] The summary of action for Lt. Murphy’s posthumous Medal of Honor describes the enemy force as numbering “more than 50,”[54] while the official citation puts the number at “between 30 and 40 enemy fighters.

I am sure they were a very brave and skilled bunch but the film and book greatly exaggerate the number of Taliban. It’s a bit like Bravo Two Zero.

I watched a documentary about one of the guys involved..Murph the protector or something like that…worth a look.

I am sure they were a very brave and skilled bunch but the film and book greatly exaggerate the number of Taliban. It’s a bit like Bravo Two Zero.

Although I’m sure the film dramatises things a bit,I don’t agree, especially as the guy was on set to guide the Director. 30-50 soldiers familiar with the terrain, with AK47’s & RPGs vs 4 even highly trained soldiers with their backs to a cliff in foriegn lands & limited ammo would be a hard battle no? Even Seals don’t throw themselves down a cliff for the sake of it.

It’s a well made film and a great watch if you like blood n guts.

Subjectively it’s the one-sided story of a superior foreign power invading a country in order to impose their own values and killing those who are trying to defend the only way of life they’ve ever known.

A new British drama based on real events of some old colleagues. It’s got some very good reviews so far…

http://kajakimovie.com/

30-50 soldiers familiar with the terrain, with AK47’s & RPGs vs 4 even highly trained soldiers with their backs to a cliff in foriegn lands & limited ammo would be a hard battle no?

Of course it was a hard battle and the Taliban are not mugs. In the movie there seemed to be a very high body count in the woods must of been about 30 -50 killed. If that was true then they would of survived as they would of wiped out the bad guys.

In Luttrell’s original after-action report, he stated that he and his teammates were attacked by 20-35 insurgents

while his book places the number at over 200.

As I said they were very trained and obviously brave but it seems that the poetic licence got a bit carried away in this one.

Errrm….no. The Taliban (and their interpretation of sharia) was only in power for 5 years. Afghans have known much more. AQ were/are mainly war touring foreigners (locals called them “foreigners”). And, as far as I can tell, no western values have been enforced on Afghanistan. Karzai didn’t wear any of it.
I’m no apologist for this or any war, but, subjectively, a large amount of zilogs post is plainly not true.

Subjectively it’s the one-sided story of a superior foreign power invading a country in order to impose their own values and killing those who are trying to defend the only way of life they’ve ever known.

Did you actually watch it? Or is really about how the alledged superior force came very unstuck with the local force, and a pointer to the political reality in Afganistan not being understood by the invader?

Although of course the film is to promote the American hero, no matter how you looked at it they got thier arses kicked. And lets not forget that over the ages, this war hasn’t actually ever been won yet has it.

AQ were/are mainly war touring foreigners

yes a lot from the baltic states of all places..

Did you actually watch it?

Yep, and enjoyed it! The fact that the goat herders, when released, immediately ran to fetch the “bad guys” told me maybe the Americans weren’t really wanted there!

I enjoy films like this but take them very much at face value, i.e. just one bunch of guys shooting an another bunch of guys. I certainly wouldn’t try to glean any truth/facts from it.