No doubt this topic gets covered regularly, but what does your steed weigh ? I have an orange p7 which has been on a diet since its birthweight was a hefty 31 lb , it now comes in at 26lb with xt transmission, hope hoops and dt swiss forks, easton carbon bits and x2 brakes. I dont think i can take the steel hardtail much further but I like the ride. contemplating either a 130mm carbon or titanium frame that hopefully has similar ride characteristics, I dont do any hardcore riding so dont need anything to burly.
Mmmbop with Revs and Flow Hoops which is 26lbs… But I’ve killed the forks and dinged the wheels so I fear for the frame with the way I ride. More burly Replacement has been ordered.
Been thinking about this question too, but most 140mm hardtail frames are steel. None of the majors seem to make an off the peg bike using an alloy frame without doing an overbuild job on it (Commencal Ramones, etc.). Are there any alloy 140mm frames out there in the Soul/456 sort of mould? Or even full bikes? 25 to 26lbs with 120 to 140mm travel would be nice.
EDIT – I have an old horiz drop-out Chameleon that I run 9 speed and that’s probably 27ish pounds.
My Soul is just under 27lbs with Float 140 bolt-thrus, Gravity Dropper, Flows on Pro 2 Evos, Avid Elixirs, 1×9 transmission, flat pedals and big tyres. Nothing has been changed to make it lighter – all just not too expensive, fairly strong/stiff, not too heavy, or what came on my old Boardman HT Pro (bars, cranks, shifter and mech). If your Orange really is 26lbs then a Soul frame would drop up to 2lbs depending on the era of the P7. I’m not sure I’d want to ride a bike much lighter than mine the way I ride it though!
I will be interested to hear how the carbon rides. P7 does weight 26lb,granted I have lighter wheel/tyres than some would run, crests and nobbly nicks. weighed on reuben heaton spring ballance back from my fishing days.
Had a few changes since then but still basically the same- 25lbs with fat tyres and a gravity dropper. Nothing too delicate on it. That’s actual 25lbs btw, not internet 25lbs 😉
I really like it fwiw… Has a bit of compliance to the rear end, and I’ve stuck a slackening headset in it, so it’s ended up with most of the best bits of my old Soul and Mmmbop, with none of the vices. Does feel a bit long, and doesn’t climb as well as either of those 2 for some reason, but that’s fair enough. Not perfect but still very good.
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Vortexracing. I have a Soul very similar to yours (but orange)
Currently only has a top chainguide (Superstar), dropping the chain a lot and so need to have a bottom guide as well. I have a Superstar top and bottom guide on another bike that works perfectly, never drops a chain but noisy on the bottom jockey wheel and did not want this on the Soul.
You seem to have an MRP top and bottom guide on yours, is that noisy?
Currently about 24.5lb when devoid of waterbottles and anything else I’ve strapped to the frame. When first built up, it was 23.3lb, but had Carbon bars and 9spd XTR not 10spd XT (which is quite a bit heavier) and lighter tyres. Though I’m sure if I slung my Mud X’s on it’ll dip back under 24lb.
Again, these are actual weights, not internet made up weights. And they include the pedals too! Here’s a pic of the bike when it was just built, coming in at 23.3lb…
Ironically the Bolt through Reba’s are slightly heavier than the QR Revelations they replaced, though stiffer, and I added more weight with the chain device as well as with the 10spd XT stuff and Alloy Sunline bars to replace the Carbon Eastons.
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Vortexracing. I have a Soul very similar to yours (but orange)
Currently only has a top chainguide (Superstar), dropping the chain a lot and so need to have a bottom guide as well. I have a Superstar top and bottom guide on another bike that works perfectly, never drops a chain but noisy on the bottom jockey wheel and did not want this on the Soul.
You seem to have an MRP top and bottom guide on yours, is that noisy?
I’ll weigh in as I have done the same, and now run the same MRP Lopes device as Vortexracing. The MRP Lopes isn’t silent, but it’s a lot quieter than most chain devices. It’s also a country mile better for chain retention than the Superstar top only guide (but then so is everything else!).
Decent Chain Devices are silly expensive when you look at them on paper, but the old addage “buy cheap, buy twice” seems to apply here as every cheap chain device I’ve ever used has either been really noisy, or won’t keep the chain on, or both!
Medium Soda with ’07 Revs at 130mm, Hope Pro IIs on Crests, mostly XT drivetrain. I guess around 25lbs, but I’ve not got round to weighing it. Or taking a decent pic, so you’ll just have to imagine it…
northwind – what’s your spec? my c456 was 26lbs dead with similar bits but no dropper post.
Just light-but-strong throughout… Rev Teams, Roval Traversee wheels, XTR cranks, easton bars, MG1-ti pedals, renthal kevlar grips, X9 drivetrain, charge knife saddle, oro brakes with R1 rotors, and a sprinkling of titanium bolts. Oh and a foldy Nevegal and Nobby Nic run tubeless.
Right now it’s lighter though as my Revelations blew up again 🙁 So now it’s an overweight rigid.