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Just completed the census.
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it was my understanding that the census was instigated as a simple numerical count of the population; however, the information required in this census form far exceeds this mandate.
Which census was that then?
The 1851 census had questions about jobs, place of birth, marital status and "Whether blind, deaf, or idiot".
And the 1086 Domesday Book census was to determine "What, or how much, each man had, who was an occupier of land in England, either in land or in stock, and how much money it were worth."
Or do you mean an earlier one?
1. What law requires me to complete the census?
Mainly the 1920 Census Act, but knock yourself out:
http://www.ons.gov.uk/census/2011-census/2011-census-project/legislationPosted 1 year ago # -
Lawmanmx - Member
Notice of Conditional Acceptance and Request for Clarificationetc etc etc
So, what's your (or rather the person who wrote this letter) objection then?
You voluntarily choose to live in this country controlled by a government. They supply services and allow you to live here, the freedom to work any job, spend your earned (or unearned) money as you see fit, procreate, etc etc, so why shouldn't that same government be entitled to ask each of their citizens this set of questions?
If you don't agree with it, or the level of 'intrusion' and prefer a more private life, then haul ass to Siberia, or some sub-Saharan African country where you can live out the remainder of your life in total privacy?
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Yeah! Love it or leave it buddy!
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Kit, please tell me you're not serious.
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I'm curious as to why peope have a problem with filling out the census?
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What census?
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chose to Kit???? i was born here (where's the choice in that) i just Like to have the "choice" to fill or not fill in any correspondence, and not to be THREATENED with confiscation of funds if i dont comply.
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Kit, please tell me you're not serious.
I am being serious!
Everyone here has, at some point, had a bank account, had an employer, used the NHS, paid the taxman, and perhaps even made a purchase with a bank or credit card. And all of us are using the internet.
Therefore we have all, at some point, volunteered personal information to one organisation or another. Have you, at any point, told them to stuff it? Have you questioned their legal right to take that information, and what they will do with it? I very much doubt it, so why is there a problem telling the government the same information?
Or am I being horrendously naive? And if so, then I will gladly be enlightened because at the moment I do have absolutely no problem with the government knowing what they feel they need to about me.
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chose to Kit????
Yeah, go live somewhere else if it's a problem.
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I've to fill out a form once every ten years to confirm that I'm me, I live here, I've not spontaneously turned Afro-Caribbean and I still have a limb at each corner. Meh, I've had bigger hardships.
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-filling out
-fill out a form
-Wish I hadn't filled mine in now.
-Sent it backetc etc
Are you telling me you lot don't do it online? Freaks
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the good thing is that you can talk about the services you feel that the community needs-you can have anything you want as long as it is made of purple paper.
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get a grip kit perlease
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I can see the answer to question 17 being a conspiracy seekers wet dream
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-fill out a form
Are you telling me you lot don't do it online? Freaks
What do you call it when you fill out a form online, other than "filling out a form online"?
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I notice you ignored my points Lawmanmx so I'll continue to bug you
i just Like to have the "choice" to fill or not fill in any correspondence, and not to be THREATENED with confiscation of funds if i dont comply.
I suppose they could change the rule to "Anyone who has not filled in the census is not entitled to any public services, benefits, national insurance, healthcare, food, water, housing etc as they have decided they don't exist and as such we haven't been able to allocate a budget for them" but that is a bit more difficult to implement than a simple fine.
is that so very wrong of me in this "so called" free country of ours?
A country isn't defined as being free or not based on whether you have to spend 10 minutes filling in a form every decade.
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I can see the answer to question 17 being a conspiracy seekers wet dream
only to that small group of small minded English people who are unable to conceive of a part of the UK that isn't England.
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get a grip kit perlease
I've got a firm grip of my responsibilities as a citizen of this country. Do you complain when you are required to anything else in life? Do you pay taxes in this free country? Do you pay the nice person in the shop when you go to buy something in this free country? Assuming you're employed, do you show up to work each day in this free country? etc etc etc.
Like I said, you're free to leave the country if it doesn't suit you.
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It can't be 10 years since the last one. I must getting old.
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Graham, all those "public sevices" you speak of i pay Bills to
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It was a toss between Jedi or "Disciple of Clarkson" but went for follower of Shimanoism
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What do you call it when you fill out a form online, other than "filling out a form online"?
Alright then scrawled all over mine..
can't do that online
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Sincerely without malice, ill will, vexation or frivolity... I agree with Kit. What's the big deal? I can't quite see why folk are having their teenage rebellion over this. It ain't that hard, it's no skin off my nose. It's useful for people, some of whom do not seek to harm you.
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Graham, all those "public sevices" you speak of i pay Bills to
You pay bills??
But surely they are correspondence where you will "be THREATENED with confiscation of funds if i dont comply"?
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As the OP: I dont mind how many people, what type of house etc, or even the work Q's that are asked in the form as I understand how they can help twards planning towards the needs of society ( if only that were the case ) ... but religion, nah ... I'm not a religious person and dont think it has a place on the form as what is gained from it?
As far as I am aware ( and I could be wrong ), is not really upto the state to create facilities for religion ( such as churches / mosques / places of worship ). Religion to me is something that you chose to do / follow, chose to participate in, and that you put into it yourself ... and that places of worship are creations of the followers and not the state .... so if its not created by the state for the people ... why ask about it?
I also don't trust the no-belief answer ... dont know why, cant really explain, but i somehow feel that the answer would get dismissed as an I dont care / it wont matter to them type thing.
Dont worry folks, i'll not be preaching that we should all believe in the force and those that dont will be banished to the dark side on bikes with thin tyres wearing lycra.
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Was listening to the head of the Jedi Church on the radio 4 the other day and I was left with the feeling it was something not unlike an atheist come natural law movement.
Spiritual without a deity, which sounds a bit like some eastern religions which he admitted was probably the inspiration for the order in the films. New age western Buddhism?
That all sounds like something better than 'no religion' which comes across at best like agnostic or at worst morally bankrupt. Plus you get a lightsaber (hopes).
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