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Jeremy Corbyn
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CaptainFlashheartFree Member
maybe corbyn could appoints Mr Tumble to his shadow cabinet, thatmight match it
Well, I think Di shares Mr Tumble’s tailor at least.
🙂
Oh, and if we’re doing politicians making silly faces…
CaptainFlashheartFree MemberThe Messiah has taken to Twitter.
Proud two of the three “great offices of state” are, for the first-time ever, filled by women
Erm….Jez, a word in your shell like, if I may…
CaptainFlashheartFree MemberWell, lifer, let’s see;
Prime Minister, Chancellor of the Exchequer, Foreign Secretary and Home Secretary.
PM? Female? Yep. Bindun previously, and is also currently female.
Chancellor? No.
Foreign Secretary? No.
Home Secretary. Yep. Currently female.So, yes. 2 of the 4 great offices of state have been, or are being, filled by women.
Of course, the “great offices of state” are only held by those in government. Jeremy knew, that. Surely. I’m sure he also knew that there are four, not three.
cranberryFree MemberWell, I think Di shares Mr Tumble’s tailor at least.
Racist!
jambalayaFree MemberReshuffle starting NOW!
Might be over by Christmas.
Depends what you mean by “over” given there where 50 unfilled posts in his last Shadow Cabinet
I see the transaction was completed as expected, one cover-up in return for a peerage and a Shadow Cabinet post. This will never ever leave Chakrabati, a whole career undone. At least Corbyn has shown some political guile in buying favour and faux credility lauding his diverse appointments (second time around anyway)
teamhurtmoreFree MemberBloody media bias. Jezza’s big announcement behind UK’ punch ups and fracking etc in BBC news
zokesFree MemberAnyone having a pop at the choices for shadow cabinet really needs to look at the actual cabinet
oldnpastitFull MemberHoly shit Amber Rudd is home secretary?
Hard to believe isn’t it.
We are clearly pretty useless as a nation if these are the best politicians we can produce.
teamhurtmoreFree MemberUnity has yet to break out in the Labour Party
How dare the BBC say such things?
Still to promote an ex takes some balls I guess
jambalayaFree MemberHoly shit Amber Rudd is home secretary?
Lifer, Angela Leadsom and Priti Patel also in there. Can’t believe you missed Amber’s speech. It was all over the news.
The only news in the reschuffle is whether any of those who resigned will return. Lady Chakrabati and Abbott aren’t news.
jambalayaFree MemberAnyone having a pop at the choices for shadow cabinet really needs to look at the actual cabinet
We have. We can’t comment on the majority of the shadow cabinet as the posts have been empty. It’s an offence unfer the Trade’s Description Act to call it a reschuffle as there is hardly anyone to shuffle, it’s more an excersize in trying to find bums to put on empty seats
teamhurtmoreFree MemberIt is a reshuffle. People have been fired and demoted. But that doesn’t make the headlines
just5minutesFree MemberDulwich I think – rough lot judging by the sledging their cricket teams get involved in
Correct, £37K a year for each of the kids – around £140K in gross salary.
Still, good to see that Labour are still focussed on comprehensive education for everyone else and continuing to attach the privilege of the “Elites”.
ninfanFree MemberWelcome @JoStevensLabour to the position of Shadow Welsh Secretary – as a proud Welshwoman I know the dedication with which she’ll serve
— Jeremy Corbyn (@jeremycorbyn) October 6, 2016
zokesFree Memberit’s more an excersize in trying to find bums to put on empty seats
Even the empty seats are preferable to many of the bums in the actual cabinet
chewkwFree MemberIs that Deputy Labour Leader still there or at some music festival again?
dazhFull MemberI wonder if it’s occurred to Alan Johnson that someone who bottled out of the leadership and repeatedly refused to put themselves forward despite most of the party pretty much begging him to is not someone who should be commenting.
binnersFull MemberNot so much commenting, as merely stating an obvious fact.
He’s appointed Dianne Abbot as shadow home secretary. That means that if they won an election (I know, I know, but try really hard to picture it) she would be the actual Home Secretary.
Let’s all just have a think about that for a miment, shall we…..?
dazhFull MemberNot so much commenting, as merely stating an obvious fact.
Well, quite, but seeing as he’s a not insignificant part of the reason why Corbyn ended up in this position he should probably exercise some some self awareness. It’s almost a shame he hasn’t got the balls to step up himself, as his past history with David Nutt would suggest he’d fit in very well with the current anti-expert mood.
teamhurtmoreFree MemberHard Labour should take something out of the Wendy book ie, take something that is really important but missing. Make a badge for everyone to wear and then ignore it. Instead of RESPECT try UNITY. The badges would sell like cold cakes
Nipper99Free MemberWell Keir Starmer on AM show gives me some hope that at least there is someone sensible in the shadow cabinet.
teamhurtmoreFree Member+1 nipper
Where did they find him? Articulate, considered, thoughtful….
dragonFree MemberGood to see Corbyn and Abbot giving speeches at a Socialist Worker event and being lauded on SWP website. Remind me again which party are they in?
nick1962Free MemberDianne Abbot over A.J any day. Though if neither was an option…
Anyone rather than the current Tory incumbent……..
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/tory-home-secretary-amber-rudds-8972936binnersFull MemberI think the appearences at the SWP event can now put paid, once and for all, to any pretence at wanting to actually appeal to the wider electorate, rather than carry on shouting into the echo chamber of sixth formers, and clueless Momentum bell ends
The observer is reporting quite a few of Jezza’s days-old cabinet are about to resign over this and his sacking of Rosie Winterton
Could this absolute farce get any worse? The bloke is either an utter and complete moron, and the most totally inept politician ever to enter parliament, or as I’m starting to suspect, actually a Tory sleeper cell/Trojan horse
RIP: the labour/socialist workers/whatever party
Good job there’s nothing important taking place at the moment that could probably do with a decent moderate opposition to actually oppose, instead of talking to itself in its stupid ****ing self-absorbed, virtue-signalling, lefty Islington bubble
jambalayaFree MemberJox Cox’s widower has described the Labour Party as “disgraceful”. Quite an achievement of Corbyn’s Cabal even by their standards.
With Russia and Assad bombing Aleppo all they and Stop the War want to talk about is the US 😯
Even previously describing Russia’s invasion of Crimea as understandable !!! Remember never criticise fellow Communists. Stop the War founded and lead by a mix of Communist Party members and CAGE terrorist apologists and of course with Corbyn as it’s spiritual head. An anti-US movement more concerned with its political agenda than civilians dying in Aleppo
Binners of course Labour are engaging with the SWP as it’s their supporters and policies whichgot Corbyn elected. Up with Russia and down with the evil Satan that is the USA
DrJFull MemberEven previously describing Russia’s invasion of Crimea as understandable !!! Remember never criticise fellow Communists. Stop the War founded and lead by a mix of Communist Party members and CAGE terrorist apologists and of course with Corbyn as it’s spiritual head. An anti-US movement more concerned with its political agenda than civilians dying in Aleppo
#jambablx of the highest order!!
Still waiting to hear your own condemnation of bombing civilians …
yunkiFree Memberyaaaaaaaaaaawwwwwwwwn
are the same half a dozen mentalists still spouting their inane and demented vitriol??
get over yourselves for pity’s sakeCorbyn’s ace and everyone knows it.. Etonian tyranny is on it’s last legs
As that very popular Nobel prize winning lyricist said – the times they are a changin’ 😀
molgripsFree MemberAs that very popular Nobel prize winning lyricist said – the times they are a changin’
Good line, but unfortunately he said that like 50 years ago and they haven’t changed much!
yunkiFree Memberthe shift in human consciousness is a slow thing
50 years ago black americans had only just got the vote, now there is a black president
100 years more and our women weren’t afforded much more respect than that shown by the taliban to their womenfolk
It’s a matter of our race evolving, only the folk that aren’t evolving are pretty keen to hold things back so that they don’t get left behind.. it slows the process
Here we can clearly see the Jambalayas (centre) and the Binners (second from right) They are clearly on a different evolutionary path to the rest of us
dragonFree MemberStill waiting to hear your own condemnation of bombing civilians …
I don’t think anyone in the West who isn’t a nut job advocates bombing of civilians, but war is a dirty business and they will get killed unfortunately, however what Russia is doing is of a different scale. Guardian looked into this yesterday and ~900 deaths attributed to US and 3000+ to Russia, with the Russian’s / Syria deliberately targeting areas where civilians live and in particular hospitals.
Problem Corbyn has is he doesn’t seem to want to condemn Russia despite it being complicit in use of illegal weapons and hitting hospitals. And yet is happy to condemn the USA/UK/French forces that have been quite successful in stopping ISIS taking over Iraq.
He can keep moaning about Blair and Iraq but that was years ago now, and we have to somehow come up with solution to deal with the world as it is, you can’t change the past.
JunkyardFree MemberJox Cox’s widower has described the Labour Party as “disgraceful”. Quite an achievement of Corbyn’s Cabal even by their standards.
only google ref to this claim is your post
Even previously describing Russia’s invasion of Crimea as understandable !!! Remember never criticise fellow Communists.
What sort of idiot things Putin is a communist 😯
Fact checking jambyland is pointless its easier to just realise everything you say is wrong and that you dont careNorthwindFull MemberHmm. Brendan Cox’s tweet is in a response to the Guardian’s tweet “Jeremy Corbyn’s spokesman tells us there is as much reason to protest outside the American embassy, as the Russian, over Syria attacks.”.
I went and read the original text that GuardianHeather is quoting from and you know what? The tweet seems to be made up bullshit. Below is the fullest version I can find of the actual comments (it may not be fully complete btw, it was quite tricky to get this much)
“The focus on Russian atrocities or Syrian army atrocities – which is absolutely correct– I think sometimes diverts attention from other atrocities that are taking place. “
<I added the bold, I’ll get back to that later>
“Independent assessments are that there have been very large scale civilian casualties as a result of the US-led coalition bombing. There are several cases of large numbers of civilian deaths in single attacks. And there hasn’t been as so much attention on those atrocities or those casualties. And both the United States and British Governments have been reluctant to accept any independent assessment of what’s taken place as a result of those campaigns.
Emily Thornberry said yesterday the priority should be holding talks inside the Russian embassy rather than demonstrations outside. Obviously, people are entitled and at complete liberty to demonstrate outside not only the Russian embassy, but all the other embassies of those intervening powers … People are free to protest outside the intervening powers’ embassies and there are a number of them – not just the US and Russia.
There are multiple foreign interventions in the Syrian civil war and we’ve emphasised that there needs to be an end to that and those powers need to be part of a negotiated settlement, which is the only way to stop the conflict.”
There’s no suggestion that there is as much reason to protest against the other states, as many have claimed. And he’s obviously not calling for people to protest against us or the US- he’s saying the opposite, the way forward isn’t messing around calling for protests. There’s no suggestion of moral equivalence there, he’s clear that the focus should be on Russia and Syria, he’s calling for more scrutiny of us not less of them. Saying that we should hold ourselves to account is hardly controversial.
My bold- because the first line “The focus on Russian atrocities or Syrian army atrocities – which is absolutely correct- I think sometimes diverts attention from other atrocities that are taking place.” is being routinely quoted in isolation and with the bold section removed, including on the Conservative party website. That changes the tone massively. I don’t think many people would think it’s OK to manipulate quotes like this.
tbh I thought the worst part of it was “atrocities”, ironically that’s not really been picked up on- I’m not sure if it’s just a bad choice of words or if he’s genuinely meaning that the allied bombing campaign is intentionally cruel. Accidental/careless casualties are obviously bad, but they’re not atrocities, by definition.
It suffers from the same wishy washy language and deviations that a lot of Labour and Corbyn stuff does- lots of things that are too easy to take out of context or manipulate- but since the comments are being edited anyway, and people seem to be making up bits of it, I’m not sure how much difference that makes…
So the question is… Is Mr Cox reacting to GuardianHeather’s “interpretation” or to the actual comments?
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