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  • Jaffa Cake – Biscuit or Cake?
  • GlitterGary
    Free Member

    Since a lot of threads on here revolve around the eating of biscuits or cake, do you think a Jaffa Cake is a cake or biscuit? I reckon they are cakes because of the name, but can see why they may fall into the ‘biscuit’ camp.

    What’s your view, good people?

    steve-g
    Free Member

    cake I think, as proved by the tax man or something

    float
    Free Member

    the base doesnt crumble, so cake.

    mmmmm cake

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    epicsteve
    Free Member

    Yep – pretty sure they won a court case confirming it as a cake not a biscuit, which had some VAT implications.

    Bez
    Full Member
    richc
    Free Member

    Its a cake, as it goes hard/stale when its left out, biscuits go soft.

    epicsteve
    Free Member

    In the UK, value added tax is payable on chocolate covered biscuits, but not on chocolate covered cakes. McVities defended its classification of Jaffa Cakes as cakes in court, producing a 12″ (30 cm) Jaffa Cake to illustrate that its Jaffa Cakes were simply miniature cakes. McVities argued that a distinction between cakes and biscuits is, among other things, that biscuits would normally be expected to go soft when stale, whereas cakes would normally be expected to go hard. It was demonstrated to the Tribunal that Jaffa Cakes become hard when stale. Other factors taken into account by the Chairman, Potter QC, included the name, ingredients, texture, size, packaging, marketing, presentation, appeal to children, and manufacturing process. Potter ruled that the Jaffa Cake is a cake. McVities therefore won the case and VAT is not paid on Jaffa Cakes in the UK

    davidtaylforth
    Free Member

    I think of them as more of a biscuit, or at least biscuit alternative. Thinks its to do with the shape/size/packaging.

    If I eat cake, it will be in the form of a slab or wedge, never a little circular, battery packed item.

    lunge
    Full Member

    Cake is concidered an essential so you don’t pay VAT on it, biscuits are not so you do.

    I am of the belief that a cake goes hard when stale, a biscuit goes soft.

    Edit: So therefore, a Jaffa Cake is a cake.

    Ecky-Thump
    Free Member

    Cakes

    So why can’t they be 20% cheaper then?

    hels
    Free Member

    Interesting.

    How about Tunnocks Tea Cakes – always seemed more biscuity to me. I can’t imagine they would go hard when stale either.

    Drac
    Full Member

    So why can’t they be 20% cheaper then?

    They are.

    ransos
    Free Member

    The VAT man may say they’re a cake, but they’re kept in the biscuit aisle.

    TheSouthernYeti
    Free Member

    .

    RealMan
    Free Member

    Interesting Tedious.

    FTFY

    molgrips
    Free Member

    I would have loved to see serious barristers and QCs arguing over Jaffa Cakes.. 🙂

    Onzadog
    Free Member

    They missed a trick though. Why didn’t they sell 12″ Jaffa Cakes?

    Cougar
    Full Member

    Its a cake, as it goes hard/stale when its left out, biscuits go soft.

    I do not understand this concept of “leaving out Jaffa Cakes” or “Jaffa Cakes going stale.” How would you ever find out?

    davidtaylforth
    Free Member

    Yes, the real beauty of jaffa cakes is you can happily eat a box full and not feel queezy afterwards. The same cant be said for a pack of chocolate hob nobs or similar.

    DaveyBoyWonder
    Free Member

    Who cares. They’re awesome either way.

    bagpuss72
    Free Member

    Its a VAT thing.

    plus how on earth does anyone know about them going stale surely when they’ve been opened you eat them all……… 😯

    maccruiskeen
    Full Member

    Where do we stand on Beefcake?

    bagpuss72
    Free Member

    Definitely Vat-able…..

    maccruiskeen
    Full Member

    Where would you stick the candle?

    Drac
    Full Member

    Where would you stick the candle?

    One candle?

    maccruiskeen
    Full Member

    Fork Handles

    edd
    Full Member

    Jaffa Cakes were released in 1927.

    VAT was introduced to the UK in 1973.

    McVities did fight, and win, a legal case to avoid VAT on Jaffa Cakes. However I think it’s a bit silly to say that they were only called cakes to avoid VAT.

    maccruiskeen
    Full Member

    They are cakes – the material they are made of is cake, not biscuit, so they are not only called cakes. I’d be disappointed to get one for my birthday though, even if it had a candle

    mrsgrips
    Free Member

    Who cares they’re gross and like twinkies should be avoided at all costs

    Northwind
    Full Member

    My grandad was one of the inventors of the jaffa cake, and he said on the subject “Of course it’s a bloody biscuit. That’s why they’re in the biscuit box”.

    amodicumofgnar
    Full Member

    Cake – cakes go hard when left out biscuits go soft so its a cake.

    Cougar
    Full Member

    . I’d be disappointed to get one for my birthday though, even if it had a candle

    I wouldn’t, I’d be made up.

    My grandad was one of the inventors of the jaffa cake, and he said on the subject “Of course it’s a bloody biscuit. That’s why they’re in the biscuit box”.

    If you put them in biscuit tins, they go hard and unpleasant. Well, less pleasant. If your grandad truly helped invent the mighty Jaffa Cake then I am forever in his debt; however, I’d respectfully disagree with his viewpoint.

    Who cares they’re gross

    You’re dead to me now.

    emma82
    Free Member

    it’s a cake. It’s even got ‘cake’ in the name – bit of a giveaway no? Love them 😀

    molgrips
    Free Member

    Who cares they’re gross and like twinkies should be avoided at all costs

    You will be hearing from my lawyer.

    Cougar
    Full Member

    Gan on Molly, grounds for divorce surely?

    It’s no coincidence that Jaffa Cakes share initials with other saviours.

    molgrips
    Free Member

    What other saviours can there be besides iDave?

    Drac
    Full Member

    Jeremy Clarkson.

    Northwind
    Full Member

    Cougar – Member

    If you put them in biscuit tins, they go hard and unpleasant.

    You’re making the schoolboy error of not eating them fast enough I think. There’s barely even 2 mouthfulls in a box!

    emma82 – Member

    it’s a cake. It’s even got ‘cake’ in the name – bit of a giveaway no?

    A Gary Fisher Cake also has cake in its name, and is neither cake nor biscuit.

    Cougar
    Full Member

    You’re making the schoolboy error of not eating them fast enough I think.

    I believe I covered that in my first post here.

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