Berluscini gets 29% and gets the Senate (but not a majority) 😳

Beppe Grillo a comedian wins quarter of the vote.

It begs the question what is wrong with Italy?

Eh, Mario, you seena thee eenglish politicians?

Yeah… much better to have a cartel of over-privileged idiots, with an overwhelming sense of ‘entitlement’ to be running the country, doing what the hell they like, despite having no electoral mandate. It sure makes me proud of our ‘democracy’.

At least with Silvio you get some decent football, and game shows with women with their norks out, as you watch your countries economy collapse.

😆 binners that is very true.

Lord Rennard was trying to steer the Lib Dems down this path, if only those pesky meddling journalists hadn’t ruined it.

I get the impression that Beppe Grillo isn’t the idiot comedian the media are making him out to be.

The media is staffed by patronising nobs who seem to presume the we, the stupid public, can’t deal with anything more complex than ‘Comedian’ or ‘Welder’ as a job title.

The Eastleigh by-election coverage is a prime example. The labour party candidate is referred too as ‘Comedian’ John O Farrel. Despite the fact that, if they’d bothered reading any of his books, or maybe even looked on Wikipedia, they’d know he’s been a labour party activist, heavily involved in politics at a local level since the late 70’s!

Well when I saw him on CH4 news last night with the other Eastleigh candidates my first reaction was oh, it’s that comedian bloke off the telly, not ah that’s John O’Farrell the well known Labour activist.

… added STW Forum Poster allthepies

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Don’t laugh. I’m predidcting another hung UK parliament in 2015 or sooner. Yes, it seems bizarre that a reduced number of LDs could still hold the balance of power but given the aggregate stupidity of the UK voters, it’s a strong possibilty. Just watch how they will vote in Eastleigh!

To be fair, Boris is a **** comedian.

I get the impression that Beppe Grillo isn’t the idiot comedian the media are making him out to be.

I think you’ll find he is.

And he does a good line in putdowns.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-21572784

“As the mayor packed up his papers and exchanged insults with members – calling them “great, supine, protoplasmic invertebrate jellies’ as he was ejected”

“As the mayor packed up his papers and exchanged insults with members – calling them “great, supine, protoplasmic invertebrate jellies’ as he was ejected”

TBF they deserved the insult, were just trying to rush through a vote in ultra quick time because one of the opposition was late due to a tube delay. They failed when she turned up 2 mins later.

At least there’s a degree of honesty about calling himself a comedian.

I think we’re in for more hung parliaments too, with the present spineless, pointless ‘in-betweeners’ holding the balance. With the percentage of people who bother to vote in terminal decline at a massive rate

Even the most dense people in the country must surely realise that whichever party you vote for, its essentially the same one! Ultimately representing the same old vested interests. Its just that one of them at least pretends to care about ordinary people, while the other one doesn’t give a ****!

At least in Italy there seems to be some form of backlash against the same tired, complacent old political parties. Something we’re in serious need of here!

Amen!

Are Italians a bit stupid?

55% of them are

Well so far the markets are only down 1.14%. Obviously they’re anticipating a rerun election until the italians, like the greeks, vote in the ‘correct’ government.

Someone asked George Osborne about AAA. he replied that you could get a pack of six for a pound in Poundland.

Are they stupid?

Well… the Italian electorate have totally rejected the main political parties, and their cosy system, which has wrecked the countries economy. And instead delivered a huge chunk of the vote to a new political party, who have no powerbase or funding, but who are demanding change from the status quo, as all the present establishment are utterly corrupt

Compare that to whats going on in this country and ask yourself who is stupido!

Berlusconi led Italy into a trench. The fella who seemed to hit all the headlines repeatedly for the wrong reasons consistently. At the time I laughed and loved his antics however as a leader he was a joke.

I think Italy’s Problems go a bit deeper than the lecherous old goat

Thats like holding Call-me-Dave entirely responsible for the present shambles here. It goes back a lot longer than that. The fact of the matter is that this whole neo-liberal capitalist system is broken, and is now only serving the interests of a smaller and smaller elite.

But none of the established political parties throughout Europe have the balls to actually admit this and start countenancing any alternative. Hence the disengagement of the electorate from a self-serving political system that offers no real choices, while using the word ‘choice’ as a gospel

Italy can’t get enough Bunga Bunga

Me neither.

ANY, in fact. Poor me, lucky Italia.

I think you’ll find he is.

I’d wager he’s more intelligent than you and I, and probably any of the other posters on here. He’s certainly made more of a mark.

It seems that there are few winners to be found in these elections; not the markets, the Italian people, not the people of other countries in the Euro.

However, as a believer in democracy, it does hearten me to see that the Italian people completely ignored what the Germans told them to do, and that the Brussels candidate conspicuously failed.

I’d wager he’s more intelligent than you and I, and probably any of the other posters on here. He’s certainly made more of a mark.

Is that how you judge someone’s intelligence by the mark they make? Everyone on the forum is less intelligent than people that get in the media then, that was simple wasn’t it. 😆

They have a hung parliament with a paedo tax dodger and a comedian who can’t stand for parliament due to a manslaughter charge who picked his party in an online poll. The party has no economic policies to sort the country out that is already in dire straights and no experience of government (this may be seen as a good thing I suppose).

I’d wager he’s more intelligent than you and I, and probably any of the other posters on here. He’s certainly made more of a mark.

Richard Desmond is also far more successful than you or I. Would you want him to run the country then using your recruitment-process?

Is that how you judge someone’s intelligence by the mark they make? Everyone on the forum is less intelligent than people that get in the media then, that was simple wasn’t it.

No, it was an afterthought. I do reckon we’d struggle to get 25% of any population to vote for us though.

Richard Desmond is also far more successful than you or I. Would you want him to run the country then using your recruitment-process?

He owns porno channels, doesn’t he? Don’t see what your problem is 😀

Well if he decides to put himself up for election, then we can find out, can’t we? Berlesconi hasn’t appointed himself. He’s been elected! Repeatedly!

Its pretty unbelievable, but probably a comment on the available alternatives, as much as it is on him. Alternatives we’re not exactly blessed with here. Looking at the prospect of more Dave, or god forbid… Wallace, I reckon the publisher of Big Jugs, and Asian Babes is starting to look increasingly worthy of a vote

Is he standing?

Is he standing?

Most of the time….

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I’m alarmed at the amount of sense Binners is spouting. Binners for PM as leader of the STW party?

In a sea of Top Gear drivel along came a rare gem…

Bunga Bunga Stig

For all the jokes about Italian government, their GDP has been closing down on ours (or rather we’ve been dropping to their level).

In 2007 It was 2.8tr$ / 2.1tr$ (UK/Italy) and in 2011 it was 2.4tr$/2.2tr$

So they’re not doing that badly compared to us…..

It’s the debt that’s going to cripple them, there bond yields have shot up and they want to release more.

The ECB (germany!) should pull the plug on them 😆

For all the jokes about Italian government, their GDP has been closing down on ours (or rather we’ve been dropping to their level).

In 2007 It was 2.8tr$ / 2.1tr$ (UK/Italy) and in 2011 it was 2.4tr$/2.2tr$

So they’re not doing that badly compared to us…..

Italian debt: 120.1% of GDP (2011 est.)
UK debt: As of Q4 2012 the national debt amounted to £1,347.4 billion, or 88.7% of total GDP

Never mind America has good news on housing and is dragging the FTSE back up. Steer clear of Europe for a bit, US and Asia is where it’s at.

Mmmmm Italian crumpet

Italian crumpet

Hora, you just made my day.