couldn't be bothered trawling through all this thread so I'll just pick on TJ (again)
TandemJeremy – Member
Al – yes I have used them, no I didn't notice any difference.
Tell me – how much force do you use in steering inputs? Enough to flex a bar significantly? I doubt it.
Look at toys figures – 0.6 mm flex – significant? can you even feel that? Toys – you really think steering inputs are 10 kgs? More like 100 g would be my guess.
TJ – yet again your narrow minded view of riding and poor Motorcycling skillz are clouding your judgement!
Riding a bike is not just about sitting down and steering with the bars is it?, bars have to withstand a riders entire mass X force not 100g or 10Kg! are used to preload/lift a loaded bike and to weight the bike in turns.
All bars and stems flex FACT! And yes it's noticable FFS! I can visually see flex in both bars and stems. Choosing the right bar/stem (actually most bike components) is down to how little you want them to flex in use versus weight.
appologies if you've already realised elsewhere in the thread you're talking out your arse doubt I'll ever read all of it)
I agree that OS is not actually needed (but prob not for the same reasons as you) I use 25.4 bars and stems on all my MTBs (but choose wisely, just like every part I put on my bikes).