without them knowing when you are in a soft play centre where there is no mobile signal and the free WiFi doesn’t work?

So long as i’m not streaming video or looking at porn its OK, isn’t it? If they minded too much surely they would have set a password. Right?

If they’re not clued up enough to prevent you doing it, I doubt they’ll notice… not quite an answer to the question but…

Honey trap…

“Borrow” how do you intend to give them some back? Don`t you mean steal…..?

Honey trap…

Indeed

I’m going to say that looking at porn over someone’s stolen internet isn’t that bad, they should have set a password. Looking at porn whilst in a soft play centre however.. something more wrong with that!

my internet has no data limit what are you stealing from me if you access it?

My bandwidth- interesting case that would make

ITs like me shouting and you hearing in terms of stealing

If they minded too much surely they would have set a password. Right?

I’d expect if its unsecured its for a reason – you just need to know what the reason is.

freind has moved to a new house, got internet access, her male neihbour asked could he share her internet link, while he waits for his to be connected, any problem with that, i dont understand internet wifi, but realise its open to problems, am i correct, Mr Luddite

freind has moved to a new house, got internet access, her male neihbour asked could he share her internet link, while he waits for his to be connected, any problem with that, i dont understand internet wifi, but realise its open to problems, am i correct, Mr Luddite

If you and your friend don’t understand the risks, then yes you have a problem, and I wouldn’t do it.

what are the risks. She should know, but she doesnt.

if they do something illegal it will be linked to her account/internet/router and she will be deemed responsible for the access

There is probably a way of giving the other person a unique ID but, amazingly for this place, I dont work in IT

Curious legality if bandwidth is unlimited and the owner is not losing anything (assuming not accessing their private network). Does this still equate to theft or is it trespass?

A bit like someone going into someone’s home when they’ve left the door unlocked and sitting there reading their books.

There are computer misuse laws that probably cover it. Accessing something without authority.

Pirating of films, music, unsavoury stuff that shows as your friends problem. ISP has to cough to law enforcement when they come asking whose IP address did the sharing. I wouldn’t share with a random single (?) bloke.

If there’s no mobile signal and no wifi, how does the connection you’re using work?

I’d expect if its unsecured its for a reason – you just need to know what the reason is.

Indeed.
Is your phone locked down so that other nodes on the same network can’t see it?

There are computer misuse laws that probably cover it.

Pretty sure it was made illegal a few years back. Not that anyone will ever know..

Although, it’s probably a honey trap and your phone has now been hacked….

Well, whatever the morality of this, it turns out that pretty much the instant I posted this thread the hotshot either got turned off, left or protected.

Bet there is a special circle of hell based on play centres with no Internet. At least when my girl was little I could play with her. Now she just wants to run around with her friends 😐

Telecommunications act 2003 is your friend here and it’s a big nope. It’s stealing. Can I come into your kitchen and eat your food as I haven’t any in mine

If there’s no mobile signal and no wifi, how does the connection you’re using work?

Is your phone locked down so that other nodes on the same network can’t see it?

Was guessing that either they were on a different network to me or had a seat nearer the door. As to the second bit of your post…. Ummm…. Maybe? Guess it depends what the default settings on my phone are.

Telecommunications act 2003 is your friend here and it’s a big nope. It’s stealing. Can I come into your kitchen and eat your food as I haven’t any in mine

Damn It! To be fair though, if you were that desperate I would probably let you.

Telecommunications act 2003 is your friend here and it’s a big nope. It’s stealing. Can I come into your kitchen and eat your food as I haven’t any in mine

It would be more akin to drinking your tapwater than eating your food .

Ummm…. Maybe? Guess it depends what the default settings on my phone are.

http://www.pcworld.com/article/2043095/heres-what-an-eavesdropper-sees-when-you-use-an-unsecured-wi-fi-hotspot.html

Of course, it doesn’t mean anyone WAS eavesdropping, just that they could have been. Why else would they leave their connection insecure? If it’s there again next time you go, you could eavesdrop it 🙂

no

if they do something illegal it will be linked to her account/internet/router and she will be deemed responsible for the access
There is probably a way of giving the other person a unique ID but, amazingly for this place, I dont work in IT

Wouldn’t they look for the corresponding MAC address?

Is it not a bit like reading your book using the light from someone’s window? A bit anti social and a tad creepy but ultimately not harming anyone ? Unless you look at meatspin all the time..

Taking something without permission. Seems a straight forward no.

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if they do something illegal it will be linked to her account/internet/router and she will be deemed responsible for the access
There is probably a way of giving the other person a unique ID but, amazingly for this place, I dont work in IT
Wouldn’t they look for the corresponding MAC address?

The original answer is too simplistic, the owner of the IP address would not be held “responsible” but they would be the first port of call for any investigation so in the very worst case they could end up getting their house searched, all their computers, sdcards, digital media siezed and even getting nicked. It’s not always the case that you’ll have a Mac address to go on, the last half a dozen or so I’ve worked on we’ve only got the ip on the techie side of the case.

It’s not just a case of worrying about what stranger is doing on the internet via your connection, he’s inside your home network and probably therefore regarded as friendly by whatever firewalls/security your home network has…he’ll be straight into your underwear draw files/webcams like a rat up a drainpipe.

The original answer is too simplistic

very generous of you

What they said as clearly they know more than i do
NOT SARCASM

It’s really quick and easy to put spyware on a PC when you share the same network as it. Paypal details, bank details, webcam access, personal documents, access to other machines when you bring the laptop home, super super easy and anyone with a modicum of IT knowledge could set that up in super quick time.

Of course, not everyone is a villain out to liberate your data, but as you don’t know why that access point was open, whether it’s an accident/incompetence or something more sinister, I would advise you not connect to some random open wifi access point.