How do we know that the buyer DIDN'T receive the goods...? He could be pulling a fast one.
Could be but the seller apparently has no proof of postage. IMO he would still be being unreasonable if he had proof of postage, but without it he really doesn't have a leg to stand on.
The thing with demanding on 'signed for delivery' is you still dont know for sure if they have had it. A neighbour or flatmate could have signed for it and then say they havent, making their signature nothing more than a scribble, or a couple of times I have had the delivery man say I have signed for something that has apparently been left on the doorstep or they have nicked it, and when queried the signature is ineligible.
That is why you always make sure you are covered when posting something, as these things can happen and you will end up out of pocket.
Ok, probably not, he seems pretty genuine but to guarantee that a buyer can't stiff me I always post by at least Recorded/Signed For. It's aroundabout 60p more or whatever, but I know when it's arrived.
Another reason for the seller to post as recorded.
rockthreegozy - you're right, adding signed for only really works for items up to 39 quid or whatever it is. I don't want to track, just know whether someone and who signed for it. Above that you want to go recorded and if over £500 (?) pay extra insurance.
or take the risk and refund the buyer if it goes tits.
It doesn't actually really matter (to the seller) if the buyer actually received the item or not. If the buyer claims not to have received it then the seller is covered by RM for £39 (or more if they insured it as they should if it's worth more than £39) which he can refund to the buyer and no one's out of pocket (except RM). If the buyer is lying then that's RM's issue to chase through the normal legal process, not the seller's.
Besides, in this case, if the seller doesn't have proof of posting, the buyer could just as easily question whether the seller is lying.
Once again, Ti_pin, do the decent thing and admit you're wrong. I certainly won't ever be buying anything off you unless you do.
On classifieds. You know, if I ever sold something and the buyer wasnt happy with the item or changed his mind within the day. I'd take it back you know. No problemo. Its happened once for me where Ive sent back something. I'd do the same. Some people on STW see it as 'buyer beware/private sale/tough' though.
^^^
Can we remind everyone of the old Chocolatefoot forum rule about buying or selling from Hora at this point? 
Ti-Pin Man, how about you put a claim into RM for compensation and refund your buyer if it succeeds? You won't be out of pocket, even if the guy is skanking you.
Can we remind everyone of the old Chocolatefoot forum rule about buying or selling from Hora at this point?LOL I've probably owned and sold about 5sets of forks this year
I have bought from Hora he is as good as his word - sold the item cheaper as Bingo had chewed the lever which I would never have noticed anyway - not an issue dealing with Hora in my experience
We don't know that the buyer isn't pulling a fast one, but the seller's attitude still stinks.
It's funny ..Ti Pin Man name rang a bell straight away .I remember him trying to sell a load of crappy shop vouchers ages ago and had knocked a massive 10% (was it) off the full cost value and was talking as though they were a bargain. tells you how tight he is.
Can anyone copy the CD's for the buyer and Ban the Trotter sales Scum
how much is the op out of pocket?
So Ti-pin man has got the buyer's cash and probably copies of the CDs. He's not bothered to get a free certificate of posting which would have insured him for £40. He won't refund the money (or even half the money) despite almost all posters siding against him. He's so sure of himself inspite of all this - he's not Gordon Brown is he?
Same situation happened with me (just with a wheel) after much discussion it was agreed he would pay me half my money back, not ideal and I agree that its the sellers responsibility but sometimes you just have to take a hit.
I know Ti_pin_man and can vouch for his good character - he's been messed about a lot himself in the past - there's always 2 sides....
Good karma to all
So has he decided to mess others about now?
More I think about it the more it pisses me off that he cannot understand the rights and wrongs of his actions
So I have no CD's, no cash and he still doesn't give a shit despite the overwhelming condemnation of his peers
Its not the money, never has been, but I hate being turned over and to think he mentioned me pulling the wool over his eyes
This coming from the person who doesn't even have a free receipt proving he ever sent the goods
My advice is avoid this bloke when it comes to trading for obvious reasons
Tijuana Taxi what cd's were they, once we know, maybe the STW massive can help out..
Apologies if this is stated somewhere in amongst this and missed it.
Tijuna Taxi. take it to court. i guarantee you will win.
it won't cost you anything, Ti-con-man will have to pay the costs. Google small claims track
I've got a small pile of duplicate cds. Maybe not your taste, but I've got:
Joy Division - Closer
Leftfield - Leftism
Primal Scream - Screamadelica
Underworld - Second toughest in the infants
Air - Moon Safari
Orbital - Green Album
Underworld - Beaucoup Fish
Mercury Rev - Yerself Is Steam
I'll stick a couple in the post to you if you email me what you want. That way the karmic balance of the universe can be restored
Yer il help give him the money to come down and chin him
Thanks for the offer RichPenny, one was a Deep Purple oldie "Burn"and the other was the second Evansence album
Think what annoyed me even more was that he sold them because in his words he Digitised
Could have at least burnt me a couple of replacements, would have been my first thought if roles were reversed
End of now, no court action or violence, lived in the East End for forty years and that ain't the answer
Just hope he feels proud of his actions and maybe a tinge of guilt when he gives it some thought
Sorry can't help with either of those, ever thoughtt of 'ahem' torrent downloads
I Still live there Tjuana Taxi
Good on yer, got a bit much for me bringing up a youngster
Realised that when I thumbed through the Hackney Gazette and the bad things no longer shocked or even surprised me
Only go back now to watch the O's
LOL Hackney Gazette sure it was not the Advertiser !
So where have you emigrated to then as your outside the M25 
Was definitely the Gazette, came out twice a week.
Near Cambridge now, straight up the M11
Whereabouts are you?
East Ham mate just off High Street South
used to live in Bromley By Bow
Hackney was an old drinking ground
Cambridge not to far mate
My old man worked in a garage opposite Bow Church, seems weird now with the Olympics to be held just off Hackney Marshes
Would never have believed it, whole area needs some money spent on it though
hello
I know both marmoset and ti pin man from riding - both very decent types in the flesh so to speak.
I have bought 30 quids worth of cds of him and I do trust him - I am sure the cds will turn up in the post in the next week or so if they dont I am sure he will sort something out for you.
paul
he's been messed about a lot himself in the past - there's always 2 sides....
But yet he hasn't learnt to use recorded or have a receipt of postage.
Just a thought - as Tijuana said it wasn't the money but the principle (I think), how about Ti Man gives the money to a charity of TT's choice? That way honour is served and the spirit of the Classifieds lives on, hopefully everyone's happy-ish.
he's been messed about a lot himself in the past - there's always 2 sides
He's yet to come up with a reasonable excuse for not refunding TTs cash
He's been messed around in the past? - why didn't he say so?
That changes everything, he now entitled to defraud others 
How about Ti Man gives the money to a charity of TT's choice?
Works for me, RNLI is always my favoured charity
how about Ti Man gives the money to a charity of TT's choice?
As long as he comes up with a receipt for the donation!
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