dont question the scientists, unlike the religious people their right about every thing!!
So the solution is to choose who you believe to be the most credible from the two unbelievable options?
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So the solution is to choose who you believe to be the most credible from the two unbelievable options?Posted 5 months ago # -
1: That would be a being that has evolved into complexity from a simple beginning, just like us and
why would that being have to have evolved the same way as we did any way..Perhaps it could have evolved in a completely different way and be made of a type of energy or mass we have no concept of. You need to think out side the box more.
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So the solution is to choose who you believe to be the most credible from the two unbelievable options?
maybe there both wrong maybe there both right, there is not sufficient primary evidence to prove any thing conclusively, so ill keep an open mind till that evidence comes along.
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Yeah, that's science for you. You just make shit up. Then you test it - that is the important bit.
and peer reviewed then published also, that's the other important bit
but I agree so as we were 
Paulsoxo and Ernie; you don't ever reach the edge of the universe, you're always in it. if you want to define yourself at the centre of it or travelling to the centre of it, you're right on both counts.
Brian, please do question the scientists. Any decent scientist wants to scrutinise the current evidence and/or theory as this is science in action - and scientists are quite cool about the fact they don't know everything
Brian Cox will be on the telly tomorrow evening to explain this properly
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why would that being have to have evolved the same way as we did any way
Because observation, experiment and rigorous testing indicate that that is the case in the unverse to which we belong.
I wish you luck in your attempt to develop your hypothesis of an invisible being into a demonstrable theory, but I'm not holding my breath...
As for what if... I still ask - so what?
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I like the one electron theory best.
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they said evolved like us from a simpler being they did not mention the method of this evolution. I think we can all tell you are utterly off your box and somewhat out your depth here [ or just bored and trolling]
the one issue with physics that i have never really been happy with.
The big bang, there was nothing, no time, no mass, no void, absolutely nothing, then there was everything, time began, mass and energy appear.
i agree we cannot speculate beyond this point as we have no data so we can guess but that is all.
dont question the scientists, unlike the religious people their right about every thing!!
So you even know what the word science means?
Why not disprove them with evidence ?
Scientists admit that they dont have facts in the sense lay people use the word and can be swayed with evidence, If you have evidence to the contrary of any view then please show me your [peer reviewed and objective] evidence and we can evaluate it. If not shh the grown up are talking Posted 5 months ago # -
Because observation, experiment and rigorous testing indicate that that is the case in the unverse to which we belong.
but its to localised we need to go much deeper in to the universe before we can draw and firm conclusions, until man develops the ability to travel many times faster than light we will not have the ability to physically examine other parts of the universe. At which point many of the current theories could we be proven.
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The best minds used to think the sun went around the earth.
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So you even know what the word science means?
Why not disprove them with evidence ?
Scientists admit that they dont have facts in the sense lay people use the word and can be swayed with evidence, If you have evidence to the contrary of any view then please show me your [peer reviewed and objective] evidence and we can evaluate it. If not shh the grown up are talkingUnless an experiment has been carried out an infinite amount of times it is not possible to conclude that the same thing will always happen.
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I am of the opinion that if something ever gets so complex that it's not understandable then it's wrong.
“Those who are not shocked when they first come across quantum theory cannot possibly have understood it.”
― Niels Bohr, Volume II - Essays 1932-1957 on Atomic Physics and Human KnowledgePosted 5 months ago # -
jumpupanddown, which suggests you have no understanding of statistics or science.
Are you suggesting that a god for which there is no evidence is better than science for which there is a reasonable amount of evidence?
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mrmo, you can't arue with a religous person, they know they are right. A scientist knows he is wrong but hopes one day to be a little less wrong.
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jumpupanddown, which suggests you have no understanding of statistics or science.
Are you suggesting that a god for which there is no evidence is better than science for which there is a reasonable amount of evidence?
i dont believe in god, i just dont think a lot of experiments are as conclusive as some wish to believe. Any way i think we should poor all our research budgets in to more important things like finding a cure to AIDS,as if we dont the human race is ****.
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why do the god botherers always mess up these threads. It's the same on every forum I've seen this subject on, descends in to trying to explain what science is to the superstitious... I really don't understand what is so hard to get that science is a search for knowledge and everything can be disproved, nothing is set in stone.
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JUmpupanddown, toss a coin what is the outcome? toss a coin 100 times how many heads how many tails, toss a coin a 1000 times how many heads how many tails?
There is no need to run an experiment an infinite number of times, however running it once will also be insufficient.
Ever heard of pure research whether you like it or not nuclear power is the result of pointless research.
A cure for aids? there are worse diseases and for aids the solution is known, whether people accept it and change behaviour is a different discussion.I suppose you could argue that the scientific consensus for the transmission of Aids is wrong and that it has nothing to do with HIV.....
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JUmpupanddown, toss a coin what is the outcome? toss a coin 100 times how many heads how many tails, toss a coin a 1000 times how many heads how many tails?
if you did it enough times maybe just once it could land on its side
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seosamh77 - Member
why do the god botherers always mess up these threads
What "god botherers" and what messed up thread ?
Is this some form of paranoia ?
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Ever heard of pure research whether you like it or not nuclear power is the result of pointless research.
A cure for aids? there are worse diseases and for aids the solution is known, whether people accept it and change behaviour is a different discussion.yes money wasted on pure research is not spent curing aids, feeding people etc.. i think that that pure research could be used to find new sources of energy rather than proving or disproving stuff that does not matter to most of the human race as this point in time. Why not find a way of building a machine that can move atoms around so that you can make some sort of replicator device, and thus provide a unlimited amount of food for all.
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EDIT:: given ^^^^^^ you have either watched too much sci fi . smoked too much skunk or you are very young ...had i read that I would not have wasted my time replying and i cannot be bothered googling a face palm for you
Unless an experiment has been carried out an infinite amount of times it is not possible to conclude that the same thing will always happen.
well you have not posted an infintie times but i conclude everything you say is misinfomred nonsense.
Secondly do you understand probablity or infintity [ that rhetorical you dont but i doubt you know why yet. If you perform anything infinitely then everything possible happens - hence the monkey at keyboard typing shakespeare.
if you did it enough times maybe just once it could land on its side
if we did it enough times it would land on its side there is no maybe or could - seriously go read some stuff this is fairly low level basic stuff you are failing to understand. No one will take your criticism seriously as each post shows your ingnorance/lack of comprehension - i am not saying you are thick - there is not enough data - but I think it is highly likely to sa sigma 5 level you are out your depth and confused
I refer you to my earlier point about sh the grown up are talking and you understanding too littlePosted 5 months ago # -
I refer you to my earlier point about sh the grown up are talking and you understanding too little
i couldn't give a shit mate, none of youre discoverer matter, the human race has 50 years left tops.
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i couldn't give a shit mate, none of youre discoverer matter, the human race has 50 years left tops.
oh dear, oh dear....
i might give you civilisation as we know it, but the human race will be around a bit longer. Rome collapsed mankind is still here, Even Easter island is still inhabited and that probably marks the most extreme man made catastrophe to date.
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oh dear, oh dear....
i might give you civilisation as we know it, but the human race will be around a bit longer. Rome collapsed mankind is still here, Even Easter island is still inhabited and that probably marks the most extreme man made catastrophe to date.
as soon as some nut job get hold of some atomic weapons things are going to get bad, really bad. The invention of atomic weapons was a historical game changer, that and the limited supply of oil etc.
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you dont care but you post your opinions on a debating forum
Look seriously go learn some stuff you seem to have a keen and inquiring mind use it because at present your views are ill informed and ludicrous
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you dont care but you post your opinions on a debating forum
Look seriously go learn some stuff you seem to have a keen and inquiring mind use it because at present your views are ill informed and ludicrous
have you ever heard of mutual assured destruction, the human race is **** sooner or later than button will be pressed.
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oil means nothing, mankind was about before and it will be about after. nuclear weapons, not nice i'll grant, they could quite easily render the most of europe uninhabitable if used in volume, a nuclear winter again not nice, but some amazonian tribe will go on untouched.
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oil means nothing, mankind was about before and it will be about after. nuclear weapons, not nice i'll grant, they could quite easily render the most of europe uninhabitable if used in volume, a nuclear winter again not nice, but some amazonian tribe will go on untouched.
the Americans have enough fire power to burn the entire surface of the globe 14 times. Nothing would survive, were talking Hydrogen bombs not atomic bombs huge difference
I am become Death, the destroyer of worlds
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then you have to take account of all the biological and chemical weapons that have been produced
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WHAT THE **** DO YOU THINK A H-BOMB IS!!!!!!!!!!!!
may i give you a very basic science lesson as it is clear you haven't a clue.
a nuclear bomb is a bomb that uses nuclei to cause an explosion, you can split an atom or you can fuse two atoms. both can result in the release of energy.
So your suggesting that the US are going to launch a strike on the amazonian basin, that they are going to attack every atol in the Pacific ocean? that it is worth there while attacking st helena?
how much pot have you had? you obviously have some serious paranoia issues?
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WHAT THE **** DO YOU THINK A H-BOMB IS!!!!!!!!!!!!
this is a h bomb
www.youtube.com/watch?v=LOwEcLiK4cAit was fired at half power, there are 10000s of these thing waiting to go off. we are **** mate. And yes they have the power to cover the globe with atomic explosions, dont you get that.
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Er.. How do you fire an atomic weapon at 'half power'?
Does it have a dial on it?
Does it go up to 11? Posted 5 months ago # -
the Americans have enough fire power to burn the entire surface of the globe 14 times.
No they don't.Unless you mean Yellowstone Park.
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as soon as some nut job get hold of some atomic weapons things are going to get bad, really bad.
So Stalin was a sane well-balanced individual then ?
As was George "God-speaks-to-me" Bush of course.
And there was a time when some felt that Ronald Reagan wanted to bring us all closer to God by triggering nuclear armageddon.
BTW, I like the "the human race has 50 years left tops", that's a little beauty that is.......I'll try to remember it
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Nobel Peace Laureate Obama will shortly decide what to do with America's 5,500 strategic nuclear weapons -- that possess enough destructive power to destroy the planet at least five times over. Some experts say it's 50 times over.
Eric Margolis http://www.huffingtonpost.com/eric-margolis/do-we-really-need-to-blow_b_491367.html
Total known land area occupied by U.S. nuclear weapons bases and facilities: 15,654 square miles
U.S. Nuclear Weapons Cost Study Project
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