Just wondering out loud, if an industry insider acts in a a certain manner, i assume STW would never try and protect them? This is triggered by the missing thread earlier, but i have wondered this about all cycling mags, things like the Specialized love in that was MBR, the stories i have heard about how MBUK conducted some tests, etc.

I just want to know that advertising does not affect any aspect of the editorial policy of the magazine? That freebies, Junkets, threats, etc are treated with the respect they deserve? and not allowed to interfere with the truth?

What thread is missing?

S’funny – my last post on that thread was pondering on the lack of a ban….

… and then the post disappeared.

This missing thread?

He plays you lot like a fish on the end of a line.

I don’t get how people can be so stupid to fall for such an obvious troll. The only way to react to things as dumb as that is not to reply. Every time you reply, he wins.

Stop talking bollocks mrmo.

Ii dont understand why someone gets off on this sort of stuff tbh not exactly hard to be an offensive oaf now is it.

I am certain that he wont see a penny of my money though and he distributes a fair bit of kit I wont be buying
Quick Gary seize the day make a reference to child porn/ PC World I never stop laughing at your subtle wit
Mrmo keep going you are annoying him so you must be doing something right

Fyck me, is that it?

Blimus

There really are some sanctimonious dickheads on this forum. 😀 Some of you never fail to amuse me. 😆

i’m surprised GRF evan bothers! some of you are so easy, it’s not evan sporting…

maybe cos you wear spds 😀

Wasn’t this the tool who threatened the STW crew via Twitter and was going to take them to court/introduce them to Mr Sledgehammer/scweam and scweam ’till he was sick?

Anyone got a link to that Twitter feed?
If I remember correctly, it was hilarious.

pastcaring………….nail/head.

Why doesnt someone just email his brands with links to his posts? I’m sure they’d be interested.

There really are some sanctimonious dickheads on this forum. Some of you never fail to amuse me.

Shhh… you’ll set them off again. Once they start competing to prove who is most offended it can go on for days.

Ah, just found the thread in question. 🙂

ton – Member

pastcaring………….nail/head.

His original post about SPD’s didn’t wind me up in the slightest, as it was such an obvious troll.

But he seemed so pleased with himself about it later on in the thread that I thoroughly enjoyed seeing him loose his temper & spit his dummy.

That whole ‘Don’t you know who I am?’ thing on Twitter was just soooo funny as well.
He’s far more amusing than some of the regular bores on here – can we keep him?

Aw bless has the nasty man upset some ikkle diddums on here.

I think threads like that should be kept open, cos then it gives idiots like me something to do rather than bothering decent folk on other threads. 🙂

We can all argue and bicker in one place without causing a fuss elsewhere.

I’m surprised you define most of your target market as total cocks.

the mags listed above are very fair with reviews and not swayed by advertising. the worst i dealt with had threats of removal of editorial features/reviews if advertising was removed. nice

I am on a quest to find bike riders who aint total cocks and it is a tough call,

I am sure the people whose products you sell are enthusiastic to hear of your latest marketting strategy of insulting potential customers

you’re

Sneaky edit…

Does he sell pink lycra?

I’m unsure I follow G.R.F.’s lead but, as Elf says, keep those arguments open guys. Nobody would close a helmet thread if TJ was speaking his thoughts there, would they? So why close one where somebody else says what more than a lot of people think?
BTW Roadies are often thick, whatever lycra they wear. Thick but fit and fast. I ain’t fit nor fast.

G.R.F. – Member
:lol:Your not my ‘target market’.

he doesn’t sell road bikes 😈

most of your target market

well if the target market is whinging, wet, guardian reading, bleeding heart, trail center fat boys, then he really has screwed up. 😆

I think threads like that should be kept open, cos then it gives idiots like me something to do rather than bothering decent folk on other threads.

We can all argue and bicker in one place without causing a fuss elsewhere.
I vote Mark gets you a room.

market destructive CRC style

By market destructive I assume you mean good value, successful, that kind of thing?

I kind of like market destructive companies.

You’re not my ‘target market’.

It’s not whether I am or not. I presume “bike riders” are for you and some of the brands you represent. Referring to the majority of bike riders as total cocks is probably not a strategy your brands would appreciate.

I mean, perhaps you just do it (troll) for the sport or whatever but really in your position, MD, Director, Representative, and at your age (what are you, mid sixties?) you should show a little responsibility and be able to rise above.

our stratgey of internet avoidance goes down just fine with them.

😯

Tazzy superb proper LOL

I’m kind of confused G.R.F., are you saying I have to choose between my road bikes, my mountain bikes and my city bike? That I’m not allowed to embrace the many forms of cycling or enjoy the meeting of minds of such a diverse group as that that posts here. I do, however, agree with you on the point about thick skin, dishing it out and taking it and the pissing off of those who aren’t the target audience.

😉

Referring to the majority of bike riders as total cocks is probably not a strategy your brands would appreciate.

You’re assuming that the vast majority of bike riders don’t think that the vast majority of other bike riders are total cocks. If they do… then he might be onto something. There’s a fine line between idiocy and genius.

but I am on a quest to find bike riders who aint total cocks and it is a tough call

Long shot, but maybe you should take a looooooong hard look at yourself first, if you’re serious with that statement.

You’re assuming that the vast majority of stw users don’t think that the vast majority of other stw users are total cocks. If they do… then he might be onto something. There’s a fine line between idiocy and genius.

FIFY

Well if you must know, the people who’s products I sell, on a personal level, find my ‘sense of humour’ just fine and our sales performance outstanding,

You clearly have no grasp of PR but I’d almost bet someone at the end of Dakines (for example) various contact addresses (http://www.dakine.com/customer-service/) would not find your ‘sense of humour’ ‘just fine’ if they were emailed links to your various posts and tweets discussing you.

FIFY

Ah… he is a genius!

I am on a quest to find

total

looooooong hard

cocks

hmmmmm maybe these rants about pink lycra roadies are displacement behavior to hide sir’s liking for riding on the other bus 😉

The target audience is surely those that don’t ride bikes, it’s why the boat show/bike show was so successful.

Who are well informed and get advice from all sorts of areas, trade shows, the press and even work colleagues, you know, that bike riding nerd in the IT dept… Don’t underestimate the power of recommendations of peers.

i find the majority of other bikers total cocks but accept that they may feel the same ABOUT ME. theres some good folk out there too though.

but GRF, total cock ! 😀

jez, i only started the thread ’cause i wanted to know why the thread got pulled. Over the years i have heard of far too many stories of mags saying things to keep the advertisers happy.