I used to know a girl who was a vegan until it got to lunchtime and as she didn't like anyting else on the menu so she would have a ham sandwich and then go back to being 'vegan' afterwards
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If A Lady Is A Vegan....
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xherbivorex - I see the consent for breastfeeding, to me that seemed a no-brainer and wouldn't question that. However, I'm genuinely interested in the bee pollination question, does consent extend to this? Would a vegan know which foods have been pollinated naturally or by using transported bees, or am I thinking too much into it. I'm guessing a supermarket would have no idea but if I went into a health food shop would they know if a product is naturally pollinated. Would a label that stated 'suitable for vegans' cover this, or do they not go to that level of knowledge of a product.
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If the choice is either breast milk or formula milk then there is no issue as the formula milk will be based on cow's milk, which won't pass any veganism test...
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I am pretty sure you can get vegan formula based on soya
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but breast milk is vegan so that's not needed
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you can get vegan formula they use it for lactose intolerant children as well obviously.
Are you still a vegan if you're splitting hares?
I'm genuinely interested in the bee pollination question, does consent extend to this? Would a vegan know which foods have been pollinated naturally or by using transported bees, or am I thinking too much into it.
it depends how hardcore you want to be basically. You can get vegan certified veg which has not used animal based fertilizers for example.As for bees I honestly dont know or even if anyone cares tbh but I am not hardcore enough to know. I suspect some vegans have thought about it but I am not one of them. Not all food requires bees for pollination thoughPosted 6 months ago # -
@bazookajoe- definitely overthinking it.
i don't know of a single vegan who'd even consider pollination to be an issue.Posted 6 months ago # -
I have a couple of militant vegan friends - I will ask them.
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What about those two blokes who had a pact, where the one killed and ate the other? The cannibal one could have been vegan, still, cos the other man gave consent.
Anyway. Heroin is vegan.
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TJ- i have more than a couple! as does mister Ratswithwings!
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I have emailed one of my mates. this is a guy I have known for years and he has arrived at my house to stay with all his own food and pots pans crockery and cutlery as mine might have been in contact with animal products. Now thats a fairly far out attitude IMo
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i remember you telling me about him, yeah.
that's not so much militant but more paranoid, i'd say!Posted 6 months ago # -
Having never seen how good TJ is at washing up I will sit on the fence with that one
I know a veggie who does that actually but dont personally but you could eat meat in my house but i would get the camping plates out for them Posted 6 months ago # -
I'll see what he says about the poor enslaved bees
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ah well, i'm happy to eat at my omnivore parents' house using their kitchenware. as long as it's all been cleaned, i doubt there's much of a risk of contamination tbh. if they had, for example, a frying pan or wok that was 'well used' though, i probably wouldn't use it.
my gf's vegan too though so eating at her house isn't an issue, and if you were to come to mine at all, i'd happily feed you as much (vegan) food as you could eat. alternatively, you could cook your own. as long as that was vegan too...
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I wouldn't dream of asking for meat in a vegans house. I might have leather shoes on tho - would they have to be left outside?
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Whilst we've got the Vegans on here.. could you have a relationship with a normal veggie, or a meat eater?
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what has happened to big G the vegancyclist ?
as in midlandstrailquestG ?
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TJ- no. not at mine.
molgrips- i don't know, to be honest. it's never been an issue for the 20 or so years i've been vegan though. the 3 relationships i've had in that time have all been with vegan women.
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Its amazing how much people post about vegan /vegy stuff...its a marmite thing?
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what has happened to big G the vegancyclist ?
I'm still here.
I come back and read threads like this occasionally to remind myself why I don't post here much any more.As for the Vegan thing...
Some people think this is acceptable, some people don't and will try to avoid being part of it.
It really is that simple.
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Whilst we've got the Vegans on here.. could you have a relationship with a normal veggie, or a meat eater?
I'm not a vegan but I did recently date a vegan girl for a while, and to be honest whilst there are some compromises that have to be made it isn't that different to any other relationship. She didn't have a problem with leather and down products that I used in my home and didn't make me take my shoes off when I went to hers. Things came to a head relatively recently for a whole different set of reasons unrealted to her Veganism (I didn't respond to a text, she was semi involved with another bloke) but I did end up on the receving end of lecture on the difficulties of being a vegan which struck me as odd.
Anyway the long and short of it is if both parties are prepared to comporomise then it's perfectly possible to have a realtionship with someone who is vegan even if you are not and vice versa. Kind of like everyother relationship really.
As for the OP, I'm amazed that the question would even be asked, and that French couple in the guardian article were just idiots. Their child would have been in trouble not matter what diet they were following.
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However, such a person would not be a vegan, they would be a very infrequent meat eater under certain conditions
And then the vegan police come. And you lose your psychic powers.
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Whilst we've got the Vegans on here.. could you have a relationship with a normal veggie, or a meat eater
I would like to but I just pick nutters
I have only ever dated veggies since i went veggie[was seeing a meat eater at the time] and never a vegan.
No idea why and it is not something I would ask when meeting someone in pubs clubs wherever.Odd that both xherbivore and myself have never dated meat eaters but claim it is just chance - given how few people are veggie and even fewer are vegan there must be more than coincidence at work here IMHO but I have still never actively tried to date veggies. When I was married people used to regularily ask me if she made me become a veggie/vegan.
mike even meat eaters have access to the dictionary
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there must be more than coincidence at work here IMHO
We're avoiding you
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Absolutely superb reply - nothing like laughing out loud when sat at your desk in an open office for helping the normal meat eating folk see I am not mental
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Odd that both xherbivore and myself have never dated meat eaters but claim it is just chance - given how few people are veggie and even fewer are vegan there must be more than coincidence at work here IMHO
There probably is but it's likely matter of who you socialise with rather than anything else. Since I graduated from Uni, all my girlfriends have had a degree, probably because the people I work with and socialise with all have degrees.
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Some people think this is acceptable, some people don't and will try to avoid being part of it.
It really is that simpleMTQG - that is an animal welfare issue, not a vegan-ism issue.
There are those (like me) who think that you have to treat animals nicely before eating them, and those that think it's not fair to eat them in the first place. Both valid standpoints of course.
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@gonefishin...Or it could just be that everyone has got a degree these days.
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@gonefishin...Or it could just be that everyone has got a degree these days.
Not in my age group they don't
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Ah you must have a real degree then!
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jonnie- it's all about the social circles mate, at least in my case.
i've not gone to pubs and/or clubs for a very long time, and even back when i did i was either way too drunk to speak/see/stand up, or once i'd sorted that out way too sober to have the nerve to talk to random lasses!
so birds what i met properly tended to be at gigs i was at (or playing), or in one case hanging out at south shields skate park with her younger brother and his mates... and there was a higher proportion of veggies/vegans at punk rock gigs than 'regular' places so obviously the chances of meeting non-veggie lasses were much lower.
and my present girlfriend; well, we met through match.com! although it turned out that despite her being from southampton then preston and me durham then manchester, we actually had several mutual friends and she'd seen one of my bands play at a punk venue in bradford in the 90s (when we were polar opposites- both vegan but she was a proper crusty punk and i was in a super militant vegan straightedge band!)Posted 6 months ago # -
thought this was going to be a spit or swallow debate
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