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  • idiot with technical questions
  • Creg
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    Having a couple of issues regarding the setup on my Absolut.

    I have been having issues with the singlespeed setup (horizontal dropouts). It seems that whenever I pedal the chain starts to skip with a series of loud clangs and the back wheel comes out of alignment. I have tried it with the chain very tight and it didnt happen as much, loosen the chain and it happened a lot more.

    I managed to narrow it down to the disc brake, remove the rotor and the problem stops. Its got a 185mm rotor on the back, and the caliper is mounted with a 185mm adaptor.

    I guess that buying a longer chain will solve the problem? Or will I need to buy a smaller adaptor and run a smaller disc?

    Secondly, when I took the disc out of the brake I made sure not to squeeze the lever. However the bike slipped (no work stand) slightly and the lever was knocked, causing the pistons to move…and now I cant get them separated.

    Easy solution or am I looking at a full bleed to sort it out?

    Sorry for all the super idiot questions 😳

    PJM1974
    Free Member

    You should be able to gently prise the pistons apart with a screwdriver.

    simonfbarnes
    Free Member

    the chain starts to skip

    either disastrously loose or worn parts

    and the back wheel comes out of alignment

    ie not done up properly or faulty dropouts

    I managed to narrow it down to the disc brake, remove the rotor and the problem stop

    are you sure ??? The only thing I can think is if the disc were badly warped, but really this makes no sense

    and now I cant get them separated

    take out the pads and ideally put in some old, worn ones, then lever them apart with a ****-off big screwdriver. If they still won't move the pistons need cleaning or replacing.

    cynic-al
    Free Member

    Don't see how a longer chain would help

    nickc
    Full Member

    Bolt up hub will solve most of your issues. Shouldn't need a smaller rotor then. To sort the caliper, get a flat headed screwdriver and slowly prise the pads apart. Chain should have ideally about 10mm of vertical slack

    Creg
    Full Member

    are you sure ??? The only thing I can think is if the disc were badly warped, but really this makes no sense

    With the disc in I made it no more than 10 feet up the road outside my house, which is a gentle gradient. It skipped over and over again. Without the disc in place I made it much further with no issues, up steeper gradients. I tried it a few times with the same results. It doesnt make much sense to me either 😕

    With the rotor removed I set the chain quite tight and it was fine, yet previously when set tight it had still skipped (although not as much as when slacker).

    ie not done up properly or faulty dropouts

    I tightened them up to the point where they wouldnt go any tighter, if its faulty dropouts then Im guessing its simply f**ked?

    If its faulty parts Im assuming it can be narrowed down to chainring, sprocket and lockring?

    Ill try getting the pistons apart with a screwdriver.

    Thanks for the info, lot to go at

    druidh
    Free Member

    I wonder if the caliper/adapter is mis-aligned somehow? That might result in the wheel being out of alignment when the axle is tightened. Mind you, it'd be a bugger to pedal.

    Did it come with a 185mm rotor? Seems a bit overkill for that bike.

    Creg
    Full Member

    That was another thought druidh as I had difficulty in getting the caliper to fix on to the frame properly, the lower bolt was very difficult to fix. Is it possible to get brake calipers helicoiled?

    When I got it it didnt come with a brake fitted, although the guy did chuck in a 165mm rotor. The brake came with the 185mm rotor and the adaptor.

    andrewh
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    Are you sure the caliper/disc are the right size for each other?

    If you try to put a 185mm disc into, say, a 165mm caliper the wheel may sit 10mm further forward in the dropouts, maybe just on the left and that could cause all sorts of issues. You should notice the disc rubbing on the caliper if this is the issue. With the disc on does the axel sit at exactly the same place in the dropout as it does with no disc and does it it sit at the same point on both sides?

    [EDIT]

    When I got it it didnt come with a brake fitted, although the guy did chuck in a 165mm rotor. The brake came with the 185mm rotor and the adaptor.

    Hmmm…

    druidh
    Free Member

    I assume you mean a 160mm rotor…

    Is the caliper IS or Post mount?
    Is the frame IS or post mount?
    What type of adapter is it?

    tails
    Free Member

    chaintugs?

    Creg
    Full Member

    Sorry, should have made it clear. I bought the brake separate from the bike. The guy who sold me the bike chucked in a rotor and a few other bits that he had kicking around.

    [idiot mode] I hadnt thought of that andrewh, I thought that all calipers would have been universal. Come to think of it I thought I spotted a difference in the wheel alignment of just a couple of mm but put it down to my eyes playing tricks. [/idiot mode]

    Ill see if LBS has a smaller 165mm adaptor for the brake. I have fitted the smaller disc but it only bit on the uppermost part of the disc and I assumed full contact would be better.

    EDIT – oops, yes a 160mm disc…god knows where I got 165 from 😳

    EDIT 2 – adaptor is one of these:

    rear mount is similar to one of these:

    simonfbarnes
    Free Member

    I tightened them up to the point where they wouldnt go any tighter, if its faulty dropouts then Im guessing its simply f**ked?

    so either faulty, bad design or, as I suspect, not being done up correctly?

    If its faulty parts Im assuming it can be narrowed down to chainring, sprocket and lockring?

    I meant worn chain or sprocket!

    andrewh
    Free Member

    165mm do exist, I have one on the back of my HT. Hope did them mnay years ago.

    Creg
    Full Member

    I meant worn chain or sprocket!

    Ah sorry, misread your initial post. Apologies for that

    Creg
    Full Member

    Managed to get it sorted, just need to get a smaller adaptor so it will work with the smaller disc properly.

    Thanks for the information folks, really appreciate it.

    simonfbarnes
    Free Member

    so, was the disk stopping the axle seating properly ?

    Creg
    Full Member

    Yeah thats what it seemed to be. I honestly had no idea that the rotor might not fit the caliper properly, I thought "185mm adaptor…should fit then".

    Its got the smaller rotor fitted now, but has virtually no stopping power at all. Getting the pads back in again was a right bastard of a job thanks to that little clip inside the caliper not wanting to play ball.

    Still at least its working for now, although no doubt a simpleton like me will be back in a couple of days with more issues.

    simonfbarnes
    Free Member

    Getting the pads back in again was a right bastard of a job thanks to that little clip inside the caliper not wanting to play ball.

    perhaps you just need a bit more practice with mechanical things ?

    Creg
    Full Member

    Completely agree with you

    tandemwarriors
    Full Member

    Or a bigger hammer.

    andrewh
    Free Member

    oooh. Don;t think I've got something right for a very long time 😛

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