If Dr Roberts is right then whilst we didn't evolve to eat cooked food, learning to cook was a catalyst in our evolution.
People have been eating grains for millenia... obesity hasn't always been an issue though.
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idieting away the last 5kg. Why isn't it working?
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soobalias - Member
fruit is packed with sugar (bad news for a weight loss diet) and contains no more vitamin benefit than a seven seas multivitamin.Fruit sugars in combination with the soluble fibre content of the fruit act differently to a spoon of table sugar
As for multivits
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why ?? because it's iDaves tipple of choice
Don't the doctors say that a glass of red a day is actually good for you?
Mind you I guess that depends on the day and like everything there is a question of moderation too.
While you can get fibre vitamin B1 and carbohydrates from bread, you can also get them from lentils. Which one is best? I know which one I choose and why.Posted 7 months ago # -
I think giving an evolution argument can be a tricky path to follow, as the follow on question is invariably along the lines of - "Are we evolved to eat cooked foods then?", which opens another can of worms (fried or fresh).
Fair point, we're each allowed our opinions.
I happen to believe that humans have evolved to make good use of some cooked foods.
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don simon - Member
Which one is best? I know which one I choose and why.
That's the fundamental difference I think.
I don't subscribe to the "good food/bad food" way of thinking, far too simplistic, (IMO) any unprocessed food stuff can be incorporated into a sustainably healthy diet, if you want to eat by the "is it on the list" principle then that's your choice, just make sure it's your list
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Solo, I too will also be keeping to cooked bacon in a bacon buttie
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I won't be able to keep this up all day, work must prevail.
But..Good source of fibre, B vitamins and carbohydrates and tasty with it
We do not need anywhere near as much fibre as you are suggesting.
Vit B and carbs come from other superior sources.
Also, you mentioned taste, so you have failed.
No. but salivery amylase sure does a good job
pre-digestingcoping with bread
There, I've fixed that for you.
Hmmmm, high saturated fat content foods cooked by frying, better than wholegrain cereal/seeds and fermented diary products, not on my planet 'dude'
Sat fats have had a bad press.
Why are Sat Fats a problem ?.
You're belief is based on the Ancel Keys stuff ?.
Our ancestors consumed Sat fats and did well on it, in other words, we're equiped not only to deal with sat fats, but to use them.Wholegrain cereal. Please provide your clinical evidence that grain is good.
Please explain about the effects of the lectin, phytate and gluten.
Especially interested about the Phytate please and how it effects the nutrients contained in the grain.
why ?? because it's iDaves tipple of choice
Nope, cos its what people have found.
Trial and error mate.
Its the human way, don'tcha know.
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Solo, I too will also be keeping to cooked bacon in a bacon buttie
Glad to read that.
I was worried there for a minute.
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C'mon Solo... whilst you may be right on a lot of things...
Bread is one of man's greatest inventions! Sliced bread was a step backwards, and still people struggle to think of things that are better than it!
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Bread is one of man's greatest inventions! Sliced bread was a step backwards, and still people struggle to think of things that are better than it!
Hi TSY. How is your knee, leg, the thing you had a problem with a few weeks ago ?.
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carbs are for energy. if you're not exercising enough the body stores that energy in fat. you can also use fat as fuel for exercise and to fuel recovery. sugars cause a big insulin response which can lead to fat gains and insulin insensitivity.
this 'diet' is a simple way to manipulate these factors. that's all. i'm sure you can pick holes in it, but the plan some of you have followed was generic to help as many people as possible lose fat who have many different lifestyles. it seems to have done that more effectively than 'eat less exercise more', which I have personally tried and found pretty lacking.
with the athletes and normal bods I work with professionally, things get more complex and also more effective. many of them start skeptical then get pissed off that no one has pointed certain things out to them before and then they get angry at the health/fitness/nutrition industry.
personally i choose to buy ingredients and cook stuff, i drink wine, i don't find it a flaff to make a flat bread, and I would appear to be healthy. do what you want to do, eat what you want to eat. I'm not actually that bothered what anyone else does. I do think the population is being fed a lot of shit, both as food and as information.
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Bread is one of man's greatest inventions!
I agree wholeheartedly, unfortunately I have a habit of Buy Loaf, Cut Loaf, Eat Loaf in the space of a day...
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. How is your knee, leg, the thing you had a problem with a few weeks ago ?.
Still no riding, running, climbing, yoga... it's all about upper body weights and swimming with a pull buoy for the time being.
Slowly gaining more mobility, can bend it a little beyound 90 deg so hopefully be in the saddle within a week
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Solo - Member
I won't be able to keep this up all day, work must prevail.don't bother, bored already
Please provide your clinical evidence that grain is good.
Trial and error mate.
Its the human way, don'tcha know.So which is it to be, clinical evidence or trial and error, you can't have it both ways ....
... anyway, I do broadly agree with iDave - fat people obviously need guidance in how to feed themselves and the iGuidleines are a good generic basis for many people.
Also agree with
I do think the population is being fed a lot of shit, both as food and as information.
Which is why I base my eating around a mix of unprocessed seasonal foods rather than have a list of Good Food/Bad Food......
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Thankfully crisps are in season at the mo
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the plan some of you have followed was generic to help as many people as possible lose fat who have many different lifestyles. it seems to have done that more effectively than 'eat less exercise more', which I have personally tried and found pretty lacking.
Couldn't agree more.
get pissed off that no one has pointed certain things out to them before and then they get angry at the health/fitness/nutrition industry
Thats exactly what I've been through.
The "Why didn't anyone tell me this before" experience.I do think the population is being fed a lot of shit, both as food and as information.
Oh yeah.
swimming with a pull buoy
You is a crazy mad man !.
Slowly gaining more mobility, can bend it a little beyound 90 deg so hopefully be in the saddle within a week
Good stuff, glad to learn its all getting better.
Its a bitch when you can't just jump onto a bike and go, eh ?.
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HD.
I'd still like to read your proof that bread in inherently good for us.
Seeds or no.....No ?, oh well, thanks for posting anyway.
Thankfully crisps are in season at the mo
So is bread, and according to some, it is what we have evolved to eat and survive on.Seeing as I haven't eaten bread for months now.
I must be dead.
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idave
Can you send me a link to your comapany. I may be interested in some helpwmillarduk at yahoo dot co dot uk
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YGM
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Slow carb always is the best for losing weight. Specially to say about pagg stack. I am a x pagg stack user.
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Back to the original post topic...
Keep a food diary of your meals and check out the calorific values, plenty of websites for this, bit of a chore though.
Try cycling your carbs so that you have less carbs on non excercise days and more on excercise days. Don't have a shed load of carbs in the evening if you can help it. Are you eating stuff you shouldn't be eating? For eg, carrots are healthy and all that, but you get the energy/carbs mainly from sugars....insulin peak.. If you are stuck at a certain weight, you have got to a point where the Kcals you are eating are being burned at a rate that keeps you at a steady weight for the emount of activity you are doing...happy days, more specifically the type of energy ( Fats, proteins and carbs) you take in are being used at a certain rate.
You can try to alter the ratio of carbs/fats/protein you require to see if things change.
Having a calorie deficient diet will cause you to loose weight, but also muscle, reduce your energy, and can't be sustained. Fats From nuts seeds etc, are not your enemy, you need fats to burn fat.
Depends really on how much you want to loose that last few percent of BF as to how much work you put into it.
Look on some body building websites, theres loads of info on diets, macro ratios etc which you will find usefull.
You must keep a day a week as a day of eating faster release carbs, your body has a natural mechanism to slow your metabolism down and the "day off" stops this happening. Slower matabolism means burning your Kcals slower...more excess over a 24 hr period...more fat storage
If all else fails, go to Boots chemist, ask for some Do Do chesteeze tabs, say you got a tight chest, (not asthma) combine 2 of these with a 200mg caffeine tablet and a 75mg aspirin twice a day for a week or so and see how you go...but google ECA stack First!!!
Personally lost about 8 to 9kg in about 3 months. Steady now for about 3 weeks on 72 KG ish, happy as i am at the minute. Basic slow carb/iDave diet. easy peasy!Posted 5 months ago # -
I'll have a decent response to this is 3 or 4 weeks as I'm now on a mission to be pretty lean for mid-Jan.
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This is relevant to my interests.
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I'll have a decent response to this is 3 or 4 weeks as I'm now on a mission to be pretty lean for mid-Jan
Ah !, so thats the secret to getting rid of the last Kg or two.
No typing, no forum posting and no internet.
Wow !, who'd have thought it ?.My current mission is preparation for Xmas
I already have the wine, collected a case last week.Yes, the question of the stubborn stomach insulation.
I've seen / read a fair bit of chat on this subject.
The day off thing.
I can see its important, and yes, under conditions of sustained low/no carbs, the body would, it seems, adjust.
Hence giving it a kick up the ass, every now and then.But day off can mean just more carbs, not junk.
you need fats
Yes, some fats are very useful.
Don't fear the fat.Posted 5 months ago # -
Ooooh, iDave... why tease us like that?!
I'm on a mission to reduce lean bodyweight to make sub 75kg more realistic to maintain.
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I'm on a mission to reduce lean bodyweight to make sub 75kg more realistic to maintain
The same question to you
, Why ?.Also, if you would.
Dimensions.
You aim to be consistently 75Kg, but how tall are you ?. Posted 5 months ago # -
I'll have a decent response to this is 3 or 4 weeks as I'm now on a mission to be pretty lean for mid-Jan.
*swoon*
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Solo...
5'10"
31-32" waist.
43" chest.
Size 8.5 feet.Yes Jamie, you can swoon now.
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*swoon*
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*jizz*
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Oh, and why? Because I want to... because fit athlete types are lighter than me, because I think I've got rid of the fat now, so it's the only way I can get lighter.
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LOL - Jamie which Garmin have you got?
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I'm wondering whether to hold out for the 910xt as I really want the swim functions... or just get the 310 now and buy a swimovate watch as well.
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Not a swimmer myself, so the only thing I like about the 910XT is the thinner size.
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