Do like my Antifreezes… They’re a heavy duty (but not waterproof) outer shell, with a thinner, insulated and waterproof inner shell, so you can tune them a bit. I’ve got bad circulation and apart from motorbike and ski gloves these are the only things i’ve worn that keep my hands functioning on properly cold days (though even then, could be warmer tbh!)
They’re very well pre-curved so even with the liner in the bulk isn’t a problem (with the liner out, the palm is a bit thicker than standard but just feels normal). And no damn-fool padding, why do so many winter gloves throw on extra palm pads as if the 2 go together in some way?
Downsides- they don’t last especially well, my first pair lasted maybe a year before the outer shell cracked and came away from the thumbs, which affected the insluation a lot. Not ideal for an expensive glove but I think a fair tradeoff.