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i dont wanna sound like a rascist but..........................
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Posted 2 years ago #
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Yes you're clearly not a racist despite all those threads you started, and wasn't there one that got pulled?
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I think it's the religion rather than the race he keeps banging on about.
Dress it up anyway you like, it's singling out an easily identifiable group in society as people we have to hate and fear. For a lot of people on this forum, not just Tyger, Islam = stonings and suicide bombers, just as when I was a teenage Dead Kennedys fan all Christians were fundamentalist loonies (Disappointingly I don't think I ever met any Christians fitting that description in real life).
If you think you can't be racist because Islam is a religion, bear in mind that so is Judaism.
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It's wrong comparing Islam with any other religion. Islamic ideology goes way beyond what most consider a religion to be about. I dictates every single aspect of a persons existance incl laws of the land so comparing it with Judaism is naive tbh.
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Agreeable I do know what you mean. BNP have latched onto Islam as a proxy for Asians, the anti-Zionists should just come clean and get on with the Jew-baiting they long for.
Tyger and I probably arent going to become best mates but you cant shout someone down just because they sail a bit close to the wind. The BNP gets support PRECISELY because some white working class dont feel that the cosy liberal othordoxy is listening to them. That was true in 1937 and it is true today.
Me, I think all religion is bunk. Offended by that? Tough, lets hear your argument.
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Erm and if one individual is repeatedly criticizing the same race?
What does that say about the race if the arguments are legitimate?
Why don't we hear more about Sikh's, Hindu's, Mormons or Jehovah's Witnesses?
It isnt though one particular religion is an easy target for say the media. Its because one religion tends to bounce around and off everyone around it more often.
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enfht - Member
Islamic ideology goes way beyond what most consider a religion to be about. I dictates every single aspect of a persons existance incl laws of the land
How is that any different from Christianity in the UK?
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enfht, you are double fail.
First off, I wasn't having an oppression-off between religions, just pointing out (perhaps too subtly for the likes of you) that people can exhibit racist or prejudiced behaviour towards someone based on their perception of their race, regardless of whether they are correct or not. Do you think skinheads make someone have a DNA test before they beat them up?
Second, you are completely confusing religion and wider society. Islam, Christianity, Judaism, and of course atheism have all been part of the philosophy of oppressive goverments throughout history.
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Nobody has the right not to be offended. Simple as that really.
Particularly scousers!
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haha what utter nonsense you numb skulls
druidh where do you want me to start ?? Wake up sunshine.
MrA, you're making the connection between religon and oppressive governments, not me. I'm pointing out that Islam is all-encompasing but while your on the subject yes it is veru oppressive imo
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Mcboo, I'd agree with that - what I don't agree with is people who make out they are champions of freedom, then claim in the same breath that religions should be suppressed. It's the same as people who believe that humans rights apply to everyone, except criminals.
Hora you are confusing cause and effect in a big way there. Does someone do f--ked up things because of religion? Or because they are f--ked up?
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Where were you born again binners?
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Enfht, explain the difference between a society that stones someone to death because the Koran tells them to, or executes a mentally ill person because the Bible tells them to.
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****, they have been again..........
i gave in..............
5 prOn flicks for a tenner.............bargain
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I bet you haggled too!
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ton, if they are oriental ones I'll buy them off you
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In your example, is the latter the USA? Their legal doctrine is not copy/pasted from the bible (like Saudi is from the Koran) so I don't see what you mean can you clarify
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enfht - Member
druidh where do you want me to start ??
Seriously. Explain to me why executives of the Church of England are automatically made members of one of the UK's law-making bodies and how that differs from your muslim bogeymen.
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executes a mentally ill person because the Bible tells them to
Where does the Bible mention about executing a mentally ill person??
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Since when are the CoE legal overseers in the UK? Not quite Iran is it?
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Isn't the death penalty based on the "eye for an eye" bits of the Old Testament? It certainly doesn't do anything to prevent crime, or compensate its victims.
And I don't recall anything in the Bible about capacity, mens rea or any of the other reasons why you might not automatically hold someone responsible for a crime that they lack the ability to understand - these are all legal concepts that have grown up over the intervening years.
Enfht, believe it or not, Saudi Arabia is not the extent of the Muslim world, nor the model society that all Muslims want to live in.
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I still remember being pressured to sing in Primary school assembly and my Parents being called in. The Teachers (**** tools) tried to make my parents think they had brought up a bad child as I didnt want to sing. ****.
Funnily, I havent danced with Satan nor have I committed anything illegal. As above, Organised religion is wrong.
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Hora, that sounds like the first and last time you ever shunned attention.
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what I don't agree with is people who make out they are champions of freedom, then claim in the same breath that religions should be suppressed. It's the same as people who believe that humans rights apply to everyone, except criminals.
Getting a bit OT here, but I don't agree that certain criminals who show no respect for other people's human rights should be given any human rights themselves.
PS - the most racism I have ever encountered has been between groups of Asians of different religions at my university. I think it was Seikhs vs Muslims, pretty much every time a certain club night was on at the SU night club. Got to the point where the Police used to attend everytime it was on.
Oh, that and being called f-ing white honkey (not sure on the spelling of that one) on an almost weekly basis on the way home from school.Posted 2 years ago # -
Hora, that sounds like the first and last time you ever shunned attention.
but true 
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MrA you're talking yourself around in circles. I agree that UK law is not based around the bible, but that's not what you said earlier so what exactly do you mean? I also agree that Saudi was the wrong example so take your pick from the other Muslim nations who are now choosing to adopt Sharia at the expense of their own secular values
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I must say I agree with whoever said that all religions are a bad idea. There's too much killing, hatred and bad stuff that happens in the name of religion.
Unfortunately, all religion seems to be abused or used as a way of oppressing people by those in power. I know it can be used in a good way too, but do you really need a few books to tell you how to be good? I can tell you that. Be Good!!!
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I must say I agree with whoever said that all religions are a bad idea
Totally agree, well said. We should start a crusade to rid the world of religion, let's start in the middle east
EDIT: Let's not call it a crusade
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I agree that UK law is not based around the bible
That's not what I said at all. Bits of it clearly are.
If you think all Muslim countries are hard-line religious dictatorships, you are a bit thick. There are a handful of countries in the world that fit this description, and you've mentioned about half of them already. There are plenty of others, such as Turkey, which have an overwhelmingly Muslim population but are still secular states.
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I'm not suggesting that at all you're still putting words in my mouth. Many islamists would argue that Sharia has nothing at all to do with dictatorships. Interesting you mention Turkey, their current government are really upsetting the secularists so Turkey is a actually good example. Islam has many aspects which will become very problematic for the UK as the Muslim vote increases. If people interpret this as racist then they are really mistaken.
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Oh yes, we're not racist, we're just concerned that they're going to undermine society. Exactly the same argument as Enoch.
as the Muslim vote increases
Yep, they're outbreeding us you know.
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When I first heard about the Rivers of Blood I was angry. Then I read it.
Just admitting this worries me on a few levels. Then again this is a mountain bike forum.
Inter-marriage would be the only way to truly assimilate different cultures. Its never going to happen though.
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My god Dobbo, you're right, there's 2 million of the buggers! And most of them are under 4! The question is, how do we deal with all these fundamentalist toddlers, before it's too late?
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Integration, respect and an acceptance from all would be nice!
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