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  • I can't sleep
  • SaxonRider
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    I’m lying in bed right now, and am genuinely exhausted. I also have to get up at 7:00. But do you think I can sleep? Nope.

    Help me out, and say something really boring.

    WillH
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    If it’s any help I can’t sleep either.

    But that’s because I’m currently trying to write an assessment of the road safety effects of a digital billboard replacing a bunch of existing traditional billboards and signs. Rock’n’roll stuff.

    But at least I managed to be working from home today so I’m about to head out and cut the grass while it’s nice and sunny.

    scotroutes
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    I’m never asleep at this time. Normally around 2am, regardless of what time I’m getting up.

    maycontainnuts
    Full Member

    I can’t sleep either. What do we win

    alexpalacefan
    Full Member

    And me. Not trying yet though.
    Sweet dreams

    APF

    SaxonRider
    Full Member

    But that’s because I’m currently trying to write an assessment of the road safety effects of a digital billboard replacing a bunch of existing traditional billboards and signs. Rock’n’roll stuff.

    Well that certainly ticked the boring box! I can feel myself getting sleepier already…

    Cougar
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    Makes… a number of us. I’ve felt really run down for a couple of weeks to a point where I took a day off work last week just for some downtime, and in a fit of great timing have been hit by a bout of insomnia for the last few days. I was The Walking Dead at work this morning.

    Not that that helps unless I’ve just bored you to sleep, but I feel your pain.

    Cougar
    Full Member

    Oh, sorry, STW answer: maybe if you switched off the Internet and put your phone away you’d sleep better.

    PiknMix
    Free Member

    Not sleeping is ruining me, my alarm is set for 4.30 but I know I’ll be staring at the ceiling until then.
    I’ve not had more than 3 hours sleep a night in the last 2 months!

    Nice to know it’s not just me.

    CaptainFlashheart
    Free Member

    I’ve just finished dinner. Excellent sushi, in case you were interested.

    RobHilton
    Free Member

    3rd night on the trot for me – I feel dreadful, but I still can’t switch off :/

    The screens *are* going away soon…

    maycontainnuts
    Full Member

    I’m in a hospital bed, have been for 10 days now. I’m in a room of 3 on the ward. Both of the other 2 are old, 80 plus. The one opposite has a problem swallowing basically sounds like he’s drowning in his own phlegm, poor guy needs hoovering out every half an hour or so. The one next to me had a sleep most of the day and is merrily singing away now whilst demanding a cup of tea.

    I’ve broken my back – unstable T3, but I’ve been lucky to have no spinal cord damage. I find out tomorrow if they are going to operate or not. A long road ahead of me which course we go down.

    I struggle to sleep at the best of times, but particularly bad tonight oh how I’d love a good walk right now.

    I am self employed with a family and I can’t help the financial worries rumbling around my head, even though I have fantastic family and friends around me telling me not to. Can’t help it though.

    The nights have gotten very long this last week.

    Cougar
    Full Member

    Get well soon.
    Ask someone to bring you earplugs.

    PiknMix
    Free Member

    Healing vibes maycontainnuts, I can’t imagine the stress you’re going through right now.

    monkeysfeet
    Free Member

    I am working nights..bed time for me at 6am

    Drac
    Full Member

    Sleep is for the weak.

    However, one of the worst things you can do is stimulate your mind by staring at a phone, laptop or tablet reading forums.

    mattbee
    Full Member

    I gave up on lying in bed trying to not think about getting back to sleep an hour ago. Alarm will go off at 6, only 3 hours to go until wife is awake & I can put the coffee machine on!

    PiknMix
    Free Member

    However, one of the worst things you can do is stimulate your mind by staring at a phone, laptop or tablet reading forums.

    In my case it makes no difference,I’ve tried every combination when I can’t sleep. I’ve spent nights staring into darkness, nights sporadically on my phone, nights with a book. Nothing I do will get me back to sleep.

    wobbliscott
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    I’m a terrible sleeper too. But a couple of tips that sometimes work for me are…
    Don’t lie in bed trying to sleep. get up, grab a hot chocolate or something and watch TV for a short time – maybe 30 mins, then head back up and sometimes I’ll get off

    Get some in-earhpones on and look up some ASMR video’s on youtube and listen to them. It’s just quiet sounds and whispering but quite calming and has often been successful in getting me to drop off.

    But I think it is a ‘modern disease’ of our time. Our modern hectic and stressful lifestyles are simply not conducive to relaxing and sleeping.

    Holyzeus
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    Working nights, trying to sleep during the day is a killer

    PiknMix
    Free Member

    The best thing about sleep hygiene is you get a nice drink out of it. Mmmmmm snore and peace.

    I feel like I’m working nights, and days, then nights again.

    spooky_b329
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    Tick! I’m awake and have woken up thinking about the urgent request yesterday afternoon from my level 2 manager to bail him out and supply detailed information so he can tell the level 3 manager how badly we are not doing. The problem being I need info from three other level 1 managers who almost certainly won’t be in, or won’t be prepared this morning. So I’m deciding whether to get up and book overtime from 04:30 and do all the legwork myself…

    P.S maycontainnuts, get well soon, I can’t sleep with earplugs but perhaps some comfy over ear headphones and that ‘ASMR’ soundtrack will help cover the background noise.

    cantbikewanttobike
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    Happily I’m in a side room currently so nice and peaceful, but I feel your pain maycontainnuts. Through lots of hospital time this year I’m now pretty good at ignoring ward noise/lights etc. but you might want to try pulling a buff down over your eye’s , and some podcasts or audiobooks – if you check myy posting history I started a thread asking for suggestions, ready player one was particulary good.

    cloudnine
    Free Member

    Listen to some music

    [video]http://youtu.be/LsnFvEQYJPU[/video]

    leffeboy
    Full Member

    This is not bad
    https://www.mydodow.com/en

    I have a friend with sleep problems who swears by it. For me it purs me into a very deep sleep but I have no problem sleeping anyway. For my wife it also works but her problem is that she keeps waking up so needs to use it often

    And screens, get rid of screens way before you go to bed. If you wake up and look at a screen you are toast (at least in my experience)

    pictonroad
    Full Member

    Me neither. ****’ wind making a racket.

    Off to the velodrome later today. I’ll have a think about me technique…

    Houns
    Full Member

    Just had a year of 2-3 hours ‘sleep’ a night due to meds’ I was taking. The meds helped me, but the lack of sleep was becoming a real problem for me. I started coming off those meds 2 weeks ago and almost overnight (over Day?) I started getting 10 hours + a night. Just woke from 11 hours, I’m tired by 7pm and last night I was tucked up by 7.30pm.

    So I feel your pain, I just listened the World Service, that was only thing I found helped in anyway

    olddog
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    I have bouts of bad sleep, usually stress related. Couple of things that help me are mindfulness meditation techniques – simple one is CALM meditation. But it takes practice and tbh if I’m lying in bed seething about work there’s not much that can cut across it.

    The other one is moving to a spare bed if you can sometimes helps.

    Other than that sympathy all around as it’s a killer.

    olddog
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    Btw the way CALM is a simple body audit meditation. Concentrate on chest and even breathing – how you chest feels, going up and down any comfort discomfort. Then do same for arms, legs and mind all the time thinking about how body feels and concentrating on breathing. As with all mindfulness it’s just a way of slowing brain and focusing on something other than circulating bad thoughts.

    senorj
    Full Member

    oh crikey! – Has the O.P slept in? 🙂
    get well soon maycontain nuts.

    Nobeerinthefridge
    Free Member

    Watch F1.

    n0b0dy0ftheg0at
    Free Member

    For me, no caffeine after 1700 helps, as does not using my pc after ~1900 and instead using my Android gadgets with the Twilight app installed (reduces blue light that stimulates brain).

    onehundredthidiot
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    Ming the Merciless
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    GWS M.C.N.

    I too have random bouts of insomnia , if it’s bad enough the dogs get dragged out for a night walk on the Downs for a few hours which usually works for me.

    howsyourdad1
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    The shorter you sleep the shorter your life

    https://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2017/sep/24/why-lack-of-sleep-health-worst-enemy-matthew-walker-why-we-sleep

    If that doesn’t terrify you to sleep then sorry cant help

    bikebouy
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    I go through phases, last couple of weeks have been intermittent waking at 3ish.. then awake for about an hour then forced doze back off to sleep and awake by 7.. this week it’s all back to normal with waking at about 0630 and feeling groggy until 0700..
    I did go through a phase a few years ago of not being able to fall asleep, after about 6mths of not falling off I went to the chemist and they provided some sleep aids.. herbal and non herbal.. and I always have a couple of packets in the house now. I don’t tend to need them to drop off anymore, but if I wake at 3ish then occasionally I’ll pop two and settle with a cup of mild hot chocolate..
    It’s the waking early that gets to me, I get annoyed and that certainly disturbs any sleep pattern and the cycle continues.. but I’ve learned to live with it.
    Going to bed religiously at 10, watching some comedy before I doze off about 1030 is my normal routine and yes I’ve tried going to bed later/earlier but it makes no difference at all. So now I’m just resigned to the fact that I have disturbed sleep for about a week every month..

    Sympathy to all sufferers, it’s a proper PITA and certainly I’d call it a medical condition.

    funkmasterp
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    The shorter you sleep the shorter your life

    I’ve never understood this. How in the hell do they know without actually interviewing everybody just before they die to ask how much sleep they had, on average, throughout their life?

    P-Jay
    Free Member

    I keep a pack of Nytol next to the bed, but I know by about lunchtime whether I’m going to struggle to sleep. Ideally take them 30 mins before you want to go to sleep. It usually works and I’m extra sleepy the next night too – I never take them more than once on the bounce.

    maycontainnuts
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    I saw 2:30 last night and woke up /was woken up at 6:30.

    I’m trying the podcast type stuff, I’ll dig out your thread cantbike. I’m currently using radio iplayer and listening to the radio 4 comedies and other bits. Definitely looking to broaden my listening.

    Fatmax with probably the best idea, although jellyfish in the cathater might upset the staff here.

    I actually tried Netflix last night, I tried to think of a film to watch that I’d have no interest in, just some background drivel that would hopefully send me to sleep. I chose Pixels. Even worse than I could imagine, and ended up watching the whole bloody thing. Sods law.

    Thanks for the well wishes.

    perchypanther
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    I’m lying in bed right now, and am genuinely exhausted

    There’s your problem, right there.

    Bed is for sleeping and (almost) nothing else.

    No reading, watching TV, ipad, eating biscuits, looking at your phone. Nothing.

    You need to train your body to make the connection that bed = sleep.

    Lying awake in bed worrying about not sleeping strongly reinforces the mental connection that bed = no sleep

    If you can’t get to sleep within 15 mins, get up and do something until you feel tired enough to sleep. Read, do the ironing, have a drink , whatever. Even if you’re up for hours, stick with it.
    If you feel tired, go to bed and if you can’t sleep within 15 mins, get up again…

    I suffered horribly with insomnia for years in my twenties until i started doing this. Now I get into bed, close my eyes and i’m asleep in minutes.

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