TandemJeremy – Member
All I want is to go about my business unbothered by your dog. I don't want it running up to me in any manner and that is my clear legal right

Actually, it isn't – as Dougal has pointed out, it is only your legal right to not have a dog running up to you in an aggressive manner. If it's not being aggressive, I'm afraid that's just tough buns for you. I don't think there's a court in the land that would prosecute an owner whose dog ran up to someone wagging its tail with a ball or stick in its mouth looking to play, if you find one please let us know.

I haven't read every post, but here you go for a radical idea:

If you have an 'anti-social' dog, and by that I mean one that hasn't been properly socialised to get on with other dogs and so is aggressive or petrified, don't take it somewhere where you can pretty much guarantee it will meet other dogs! You have made a rod for your own back and the problem is yours, not other dog owners.

EDIT: And another thing: 'some people are scared of dogs'. IIRC there are about 6 million dogs in this country so you better get used to them! Just beacuse one dog yapped a bit too much for your liking around you when you were five doesn't mean that every dog wants to maul you to death. If you were mugged by someone with blue eyes would you suspect every blue eyed person you then met to be a potential threat to you?

And breathe…

So you think it is legal or OK for the dog to be a nuisance by doing this? ( a previous post of mine)

for example the dog that started sniffing around my food when I was having a picnic – muddy paws on the jacket I was sitting on and nose at my lunch. Now that dog is clearly not dangerously out of control but clearly is being a nuisance by not being under proper control

There are two different issues – a dog "dangerously out of control" and a dog "not under proper control"

In response to a tag above, no TJ is not Mr Brittas, but there is a link….

Give quiche a chance…..

for example the dog that started sniffing around my food when I was having a picnic – muddy paws on the jacket I was sitting on and nose at my lunch. Now that dog is clearly not dangerously out of control but clearly is being a nuisance by not being under proper control

you may get some ambulance chaser to take that on as a 'no win, no fee' case for the food & cleaning bill but I doubt you'd get a prosecution started

I saw a dog once

Just beacuse one dog yapped a bit too much for your liking around you when you were five doesn't mean that every dog wants to maul you to death.

No, but because out of control dogs have seriously maimed or killed children and adults does mean that if a dogs are overly boisterous, threatening or out of control with people they may well react in a defensive manner such as kicking the sh1t out of the dog and the owner.

Not everyone likes dogs or see's the point of keeping an animal in captivity for no purpose other than to be an eating sh*ting waste of space. If it's a working dog fine, if your are keeping an animal in captivity for food, fair enough but otherwise WTF are you thinking you selfish buggers!

I see this piacked up again

Dezb – unfortunately that is what the law is no matter how much you wish it weren't.

Come on, its obvious from my post that I don't have an opinion about whether it is the LAW or not. It doesn't matter to me in the slightest.
Just the fact that you always go spouting the LAW as if that will stop people behaving in a certain way.
How is it being against the LAW going to help Elaine Ann's plight?
As I said, REAL WORLD.

Tazzy, you obviously have absolutly no grasp of the term domesicated so we should probably just leave it at that.

>If it's a working dog fine, if your are keeping an animal in captivity for food, fair enough but otherwise WTF are you thinking you selfish buggers!<

Let me get this right – its ok to keep the dog as long as plan to eat it later?

TJ is there a law about a dog nicking The Publics sandwiches? My dog nicked a fishermans sandwiches once. I didnt really care as I think fishing is cruel and so the man was a cruel man and he deserved to be a bit hungry.

He also ate a block of butter once, and one time he eat a bag of frozen peas, but that wasnt in a public place.

>TJ is there a law about a dog nicking The Publics sandwiches<

There is in Scotland: Breach of the Piece…

you are still keeping an animal in an artificial environment against it's natural behavioral trait's. Just because mankind has fecked around with breeding programs and training doesn't mean that any dog doesn't have in built triggers that will lead to natural wild dog behavior or that it's right to keep an inbred monstrosity of a "Breed" in captivity.

Breach of the Piece.

Are we talking firearms now?

Tazzy, do you eat meat at all? Perhaps drink milk? If you do, how about a nice cup of shutthefcukup? Domesticated animals, numbnuts.

Scruff – its about being a nuisance – its not criminal its a civil tort. Punishments will be low to non existent but its clearly illegal to allow your dog to be a public nuisance.

you are still keeping an animal in an artificial environment against it's natural behavioral trait's. Just because mankind has fecked around with breeding programs and training doesn't mean that any dog doesn't have in built triggers that will lead to natural wild dog behavior or that it's right to keep an inbred monstrosity of a "Breed" in captivity.

That is where you are completly wrong.

LOL @ heatherbash

CFH – whats that went wooshing over your head? A "piece" is Scots for sandwich

I agree with TJ on the picnic thing, if i let my lad off leash in a picnic area then he would be a complete pain in the ass and piss lots of people off, so i don't. Simple.

However, that is different from running around wagging his tail with a stick in his mouth because he is happy to be outside in the hills.

willard – Member
A big dog recently…

You sir have made me laugh out loud. Have a cookie.

Let me get this right – its ok to keep the dog as long as plan to eat it later?

why else would you spend/use resources on an animal? If you can't make use it what point is it. Dog cheese, dog wool?…. nope the Koreans have it right, remember a dog is not just for Christmas, with a bit of luck the butties will last until boxing day.

Ah, I see. Sorry, I don't speak unemployed.

😉

just get a suit like this guy, sorted

Ours has a use
He lives with my bikes & motorbikes

This is him as a puppy

Dezb – point taken – It wasn't clear to me originally but I get you now – waving a copy of the statute won't stop you being bitten!

>or that it's right to keep an inbred monstrosity of a "Breed" in captivity.<

This is all dogs or just big dogs that chase wee dogs? (allegedly)

Dont bother – I think I know the answer to this…

sorry

many appologies to the doggy mafia, but you are just sooooo easy to wind up I couldn't help myself. 😉

As I said, ime most people who have dogs have no comprehension that their lovable mutts create real worry and apprehension in some people who don't share their love and who are not confident with dogs, so, be a nice, considerate dog owner and if it won't come to heel immediately you call it don't let it off the lead in a public place, simple.

If a dog obeys your commands this will also completely relax the person who is afraid as it will show them the dog isn't a rampaging beast but is in fact a lovable, well behaved mutt.

Having a silly row about the law is pointless, just think about other people for a bit and be considerate when in public places.

so who shot the dog this time?

so who shot the dog this time?

TJ did it. In the dining room. With the revolver.

He also shot JR while he was at it.

I was out walking my dog the other evening. we passed a few cars parked up and the people in them were very friendly.

Had my sis and her ridgeback visit this week. I went out walking and biking with it and my lurcher pup. He looks a bit like a whippet. How cool is that? The ridgeback doesn't even have a lead. Funny thing is the pup is still learning and loves every dog and every person. It wants to meet them all. Occasionally he will run off despiet being told not to and greet another person or dog. Nobody even noticed him doing it, their eyes were all fixed on the ridgeback in case it decided to break away. It didn't and it's as soft as muck. And yes, they are pretty impressive runners. I don't know how long they can maintain it for but over 4 miles it stayed with me and the lurcher, going pretty fast on occasion. Strangely, when the pup is along side the bike he doesn't even look at other dogs or people, he just runs. The only thing that has distracted him so far was a discarded fish supper.

Edit: To the OP. NEVER pick your dog up, you and it are likely to get bitten.

Nick +1
but that kind of common sense, considerate response has no place on the STW forum you fool, you should be ashamed of yourself and immediately read the daily mail 100 times and then the guardian 100 times as penance.

Heather Bash – Member
>TJ is there a law about a dog nicking The Publics sandwiches<

There is in Scotland: Breach of the Piece…

LOL! A droll Scottish joke!

I'm a bit confused TBH – are the anti-dog lobby saying it's OK to have a dog if it's on a lead / walking heel all the time (ergo having a sh1t life), or just that we shouldn't keep dogs?

Off out with mine shortly for his 2nd walk of the day. I don't even take a lead with me as it's all off road and my dog is well socialised, well behaved and has impeccable manners. Unless he chooses to go see another dog / rabbit / whatever, in which case he'll do it no matter what I tell him.

Most dog owners know what their dog is like – if it's a d1ck then yes, keep it on a lead and muzzle it. If it's a friendly mutt but over-eager, then yes, keep it on a lead near kids / super-phobic paranoid schizophrenics. If it's a well behaved beast with good recall, let it roam free!!!

User removed – all I want is the dogs to be kept under control. That is not bothering anyone in any way. Live and let live. I don't want it sniffing my lunch or my lunchbox!

IME many dog owners fail to control their dogs. If it won't come to call every time then it should be on a lead

If it won't come to call every time then it should be on a lead

That would be a robodog then.

Live and let live.

That is the most ridiculous thing I've ever read on this forum.

As I said, ime most people who have dogs have no comprehension that their lovable mutts create real worry and apprehension in some people who don't share their love and who are not confident with dogs, so, be a nice, considerate dog owner and if it won't come to heel immediately you call it don't let it off the lead in a public place, simple.

+1 for this, but it's not just worry and apprehension. Some people like to be able to ride their bikes/jog/play frisbee/have picnics/etc. etc. etc. without being bothered by someone else's lovable mutts, and the onus is on mutt owners to be aware of this.

thats the trouble with the DD act arguing what is a pit and whats a staff cross etc

I'm pretty sure… having been a staffie owner for over a decade.. but you're right.. easy to confuse with an irresponsible cross..

Agreed.

but it's not just worry and apprehension

Agreed, some people have a complete irrational fear.

There was an interesting point on BBC news this morning talking about the compulsory insurance for dog owners being ruled out. The Vet on there agreed with this and said that more emphasis should be placed on teaching kids about pets at an early age, even just spending an hour bringing a dog into the classroom and teaching them the basics would be invaluable. From what I understand this is common in a lot of countries.

Most dog owners know what their dog is like

yeah you might, but random strangers don't, like I said, most dog owners fail to comprehend this, said it 3 times now, can't be arsed anymore.