Its not just the hubs. My saint pedals were clicking and creaking. Stripped them down to find cup and bloody cone bearings.
how rubbish are shimano hubs?
MidlandTrailquestsGraham - Member
I'm still not convinced that spending £36 on a Shimano hub, just to strip it for the bearings, is a better deal than £10.80 for a pair of Hope bearings though.
Front hub's £26 vs £10.80 for Hope... But £36 for a rear vs the price of 5 bearings looks much better (and more importantly, really should need done far less often)
They're usually adjusted too tight from the factory these days. If you deal with that when they're new (leaving a tiny fraction of play when they're not clamped in the bike), and put some more grease in, especially on the drive side rear, then they do stay good. The sealing on the rear driveside is dependant on freehub wear. I've got a M965 rear hub which was still clean inside after 5 years and loads of gritty winter riding, but the freehub is starting to sound a little grumbly so I'll only wait 2 years before looking inside this time.. They do roll well though.. This "cup and cone does roll better" thing isn't just marketing bs.
They're only rubbish if you're lazy, or a crap mechanic.
The older Shimano hubs were and are still good, i have them on commuter bikes and no idea when last serviced!. I guess as their made of decent materials and having replaceable cones is a neat feature- the ideal hubs to ride around the world esp in third world countries where you just need some grease for a quick relube service...
New Shimano XT and LX hubs are rubbish cheap crap IMO, compard to a Hope pro 2 which will see you across those 3rd world countries on your RTW ride without a service!,
Shimano rear hubs last 5 minutes on fatbikes on the coast with salt water exposure along with the Alfine 8spd IGH, probably the hardest enviroment as no hub was designed for salt water exposure,
Hope pro 2 i have used for 6 years now and 10,000 miles and just a yearly strip down and sevice and every 2 years a £25 bearing replacement.
definatly in the there shite camp.
I have got them with bikes distroyed them in very little time and then switched to hope.
Got a one year old XT rear that is rolling fine
May check the grease but to be honest, there's no play or stiffness
If you can lock up a nut they're easier to maintain than any hope hub
My old (20yr) GT has stx hubs which I am yet to open up, now I know how to do it, I'm too scared.
But, they roll fine, so I think I might just leave them.
My Pinnacle needed the bearings doing weekly.
the 475* rear hub on my commuter is approaching 7000km, i had a look inside a couple of months ago, it's fine. it's been used in all sorts of weather, and the last half-mile to work is a muddy, gritty stream for 4months of the year.
(*cheapest of the cheap, 'lower' than deore)
stay away from the jet washer, learn how to adjust the cones, rebuild them every couple of years, and they'll last more or less forever.
In the north west of England I wouldn't even contemplate running them.
I seemed to manage with Shimano hubs for 10 years in exactly the same place you live now. I also remember having to get Hope bearings replaced after just a few wet rides. My current Pro 3s suggest that not a lot has changed...
A few people have said it before on this thread but I'm going to repeat.
The bearings in the hubs are ALWAYS adjusted too tight from factory. Adjust 'em properly and put a ton of grease in and cup & cone should last you as long as they ever did in the past.
... still not going to defend them too hard though, cartridge is better, preventative maintenance sucks.
Thanks all for your comments.
I may just buy a donor hub then, at least I'll have a spare freehub body, cones and axle that way too.
"Front hub's £26 vs £10.80 for Hope... But £36 for a rear vs the price of 5 bearings looks much better "
or free if you strip it and clean it before it spackered .
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