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  • How much to bring ebola patient back to the UK ? Who pays ?
  • monksie
    Free Member

    Whilst insults, accusations and assumptions are flying about, has anybody even suggested that the original question was borne out of a desire to imply that the cost and payment (whenever that maybe and paid by whom that maybe) is unreasonable or is it an interested enquiry as to how much the cost is?
    I’m interested in how much something like this would cost. That is all. No other motive. Just an interest in how much this would cost.
    Calm down.

    jivehoneyjive
    Free Member

    Facts are always included, common sense is open to interpretation.

    If they lied about:

    WMDs in Iraq

    Bush family and CIA links to Nazi funding

    GCHQ/NSA Surveillance

    Jimmy Savile’s multiple prior investigations

    Cyril Smith & Mi5

    Mi5 Involvement in Kincora

    2008 financial crisis

    Selling off Royal Mail

    What lies have they managed to keep hidden?

    Saying that, it’s not really what I’m getting at in this instance; strange how the news always focuses on FEAR, despite relatively minimal risk.

    Probably just my subconscious looking for an excuse to mention the old ‘as likely to be killed by a bee as a terrorist’ line 😀

    Given extensive research into biological weapons, you’d be silly not to wonder for a moment if any of these mystery diseases first came about in a petri dish…

    ohnohesback
    Free Member

    I’m not concerned at the cost, but the wisdom of repatriation and using one of the only two isolation beds available; as well as the risk – however slight – of importing the disease here. Wouldn’t it be far better to have flown whatever equipment was needed there to aid not only him, but all the other cases?

    bails
    Full Member

    The difficulty is in saying “how much did it cost to do X” versus “How much of the cost of running a Hercules can be attributed to X”.

    So if it costs £3.65 million (completely made up for the purposes of the example) a year to run a Hercules then we can say it’s £10,000 a day. The ‘mission’ took 4 days so that’s £40,000.

    But if they hadn’t gone on the trip then the air crew would still have been paid. They weren’t freelancers who were only hired for the 4 days (presumably). Same for the plane, it still has to be inspected every X weeks, maybe regardless of flying time? It certainly has to be stored and secured somewhere when it isn’t in the air. For every hour it’s in the air there’s a saving on hangar space and security guards!

    You can count the cost of the fuel, certainly, and maybe the costs of housing the crew while they’re abroad if there’s an overnight stop.

    Same goes for the cost of the hospital treatment (that i’m sure will be reported at some point). A certain (large) amount of hospital resources will go into treating the patient, but if he wasn’t there they wouldn’t demolish the quarantine unit that he’s in. It still needs to be cleaned and kept warm, stocked and ready for patients. Some of the medics treating him would still be on call etc.

    GrahamS
    Full Member

    Facts are always included, common sense is open to interpretation.

    If they lied about…

    That’s the thing with the lizard people, the Bilderberg Group, and the Trilateral Commission. They are sneaky.

    Their best trick is employing people to appear as ranting nutters on internet forums to perpetuate the idea that all conspiracy theorists have a tenuous grasp on reality.

    franksinatra
    Full Member

    The short answer is that the tax payer pays, but most of the costs are not extra costs, they are already being paid (as explained so eloquently by Bails)

    jivehoneyjive
    Free Member

    That’s the thing with the lizard people, the Bilderberg Group, and the Trilateral Commission. They are sneaky.

    Their best trick is employing people to appear as ranting nutters on internet forums to perpetuate the idea that all conspiracy theorists have a tenuous grasp on reality.

    It’s OK Graham, I’m not the judgmental type, everyone needs to let off steam once in a while, get it off your back son 😉

    Tom_W1987
    Free Member

    he difficulty is in saying “how much did it cost to do X” versus “How much of the cost of running a Hercules can be attributed to X”.

    So if it costs £3.65 million (completely made up for the purposes of the example) a year to run a Hercules then we can say it’s £10,000 a day. The ‘mission’ took 4 days so that’s £40,000.

    But if they hadn’t gone on the trip then the air crew would still have been paid. They weren’t freelancers who were only hired for the 4 days (presumably). Same for the plane, it still has to be inspected every X weeks, maybe regardless of flying time? It certainly has to be stored and secured somewhere when it isn’t in the air. For every hour it’s in the air there’s a saving on hangar space and security guards!

    You can count the cost of the fuel, certainly, and maybe the costs of housing the crew while they’re abroad if there’s an overnight stop.

    Same goes for the cost of the hospital treatment (that i’m sure will be reported at some point). A certain (large) amount of hospital resources will go into treating the patient, but if he wasn’t there they wouldn’t demolish the quarantine unit that he’s in. It still needs to be cleaned and kept warm, stocked and ready for patients. Some of the medics treating him would still be on call etc.

    Then if they want to save money, they can also count such flights as a training exercises/routine annual flying hours. All of which will have been paid for already.

    Drac
    Full Member

    Wouldn’t it be far better to have flown whatever equipment was needed there to aid not only him, but all the other cases?

    So dismantle one of the few facilities we have, fly it to Africa with a specialist team, rebuild it and then treat the guy makes more sense than flying the guy to the centre.

    You’re on to something there. Right we can save billions each year by leaving people where they are and building a hospital ward around them rather than transport them to hospital.

    Tom_W1987
    Free Member

    I’m not concerned at the cost, but the wisdom of repatriation and using one of the only two isolation beds available; as well as the risk – however slight – of importing the disease here. Wouldn’t it be far better to have flown whatever equipment was needed there to aid not only him, but all the other cases?

    What are those isolation beds for then? And how do you expect our doctors to be at their best if they never get to test their training on real scenarios?

    You forget that whilst Ebola is nasty, bringing back a patient and isolating him is good training for future events that could involve far worse pathogens.

    CountZero
    Full Member

    That’s the thing with the lizard people, the Bilderberg Group, and the Trilateral Commission. They are sneaky.

    Their best trick is employing people to appear as ranting nutters on internet forums to perpetuate the idea that all conspiracy theorists have a tenuous grasp on reality.

    You’re absolutely right, although you did leave out the Illuminati, much more pernicious.

    mickmcd
    Free Member

    what I want to know is why they want the infection in this country.

    What makes you think it hasn’t already been in this country?

    unfitgeezer
    Free Member

    uselesshippy – Member
    Op,have some compassion.

    Not sure where that came from…I don’t believe I mentioned anything to show that I wasn’t compassionate…

    Good answers…Hope he makes a speedy recovery

    Frankenstein
    Free Member

    Cough cough, sneeze and sniff..

    We’re all doomed!

    Nobody would complain if they themselves were rescued and brought back.

    badnewz
    Free Member

    Reading about the poor chap in the paper today, I’m glad he is back on home soil and getting the best medical attention. What an altruistic person. Get well soon Mr Pooley!

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